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    1. Tom Hartley‏ @tom_hartley Jan 23
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      In my view the nature of the argument has more to do with general human failings (we fall back on "us" v "them" when we need to change people's minds), but yes, I think scientists in general sometimes fear to go too deep (philosophy)...

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    2. Tom Hartley‏ @tom_hartley Jan 23
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      ... and of course we can point to the overall success of the enterprise as evidence that not thinking too deeply works. At least Physics, Chemistry and Biology can.

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    3. Tom Hartley‏ @tom_hartley Jan 23
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      ... But those disciplines have well developed theories. Psychology has not really got that far, yet. Understandable for the first 100 years, not so much now.

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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 23
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      I'm not convinced biology has better theories than psychology to be honest.

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    5. Tom Hartley‏ @tom_hartley Jan 23
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      Ha! Well, you know - DNA, RNA, genes, selection etc. Admittedly many of these feel like established empirical facts already, but they started as theories. I struggle to think of comparable ideas in Psychology.

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 23
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      If "DNA" is a good example in your opinion of a theory what stops "memory" from being a good one, or "neurons" or "learning"? Asking because I genuinely don't think psych is that bad for theories given these comparisons, but we can improve a lot.

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    7. Tom Hartley‏ @tom_hartley Jan 23
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      I am not trying to antagonize you though, and I know what you mean - Physics/Chemistry are older and the theories are correspondingly more mature.

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    8. Tom Hartley‏ @tom_hartley Jan 23
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      Kind of a continuum, although I do feel that Psychology is now lagging dangerously behind. As if it doesn't really want to be a science.

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    9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 23
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      Some subareas of psych have a death wish. Even if the individual actors don't see it.

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    10. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Jan 23
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      At this rate of "self"-critique and exposure to the public, I would say that perhaps more than some subareas... I just hope, not much, tbh, that people would re-think the strategy

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 23
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      Harshest thing I can say on this issue is that maybe they deserve to go the way they are going...

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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 23
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          INB4: Olivia is advocating for the destruction of subareas of psychology. No. I just am saying that if these subareas wanna go that way and I think the way is wrong, there is only so much I can do without turning into a fascist.

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 23
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          If I think a way is a dead-end, but you wanna go down it, I can't really pin you down and force you not to go. I am not authoritarian. I'm warning you, but that's all I can do.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 23
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          Basides, like I said in this tree of a thread... there are modellers doing good work in all parts of psych. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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