It's good to hear some of the positions aired, IMO. But I still feel that modellers (such as contributors @djnavarro, @richarddmorey, @IrisVanRooij) are being widely misunderstood. 8/n
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Not enough of us. It's been brewing as long as I've been in psychology, but coming to a head as we're (rightly) in the process of reflecting on philosophy and norms...
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I'm a little surprised I haven't seen the "argument": Rich is old so he's wrong. We've seen so much else. The issue isn't anything to do with Rich per se IMHO.
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Like I'd agree with the ideas if his 7-year-old grandson said them, the issue is that some people might be in psychology and have a different take not because of a fear or prereg (whatever that means TBH) but because there's a deep illogic there for our work.
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In my view the nature of the argument has more to do with general human failings (we fall back on "us" v "them" when we need to change people's minds), but yes, I think scientists in general sometimes fear to go too deep (philosophy)...
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... and of course we can point to the overall success of the enterprise as evidence that not thinking too deeply works. At least Physics, Chemistry and Biology can.
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... But those disciplines have well developed theories. Psychology has not really got that far, yet. Understandable for the first 100 years, not so much now.
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I'm not convinced biology has better theories than psychology to be honest.
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Ha! Well, you know - DNA, RNA, genes, selection etc. Admittedly many of these feel like established empirical facts already, but they started as theories. I struggle to think of comparable ideas in Psychology.
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If "DNA" is a good example in your opinion of a theory what stops "memory" from being a good one, or "neurons" or "learning"? Asking because I genuinely don't think psych is that bad for theories given these comparisons, but we can improve a lot.
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