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    1. Roger Giner-Sorolla‏ @RogertheGS Jan 21
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      Replying to @siminevazire

      I think our field mostly operates on the "truth" assumption, but runs to the "scratch pad" one in defense against things such as failures to replicate.

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    2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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      Replying to @RogertheGS @siminevazire

      So Rich is more math psych. And I understand him. I really struggle to understand the perspective(s) of social/personality psych people quite a bit and often have to ask for more context. When I get it, I can see more about what why the position you all have is the way it is.

      3 replies 1 retweet 7 likes
    3. Manjari Narayan‏ @NeuroStats Jan 21
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      Replying to @o_guest @RogertheGS @siminevazire

      I am not in this sub-field, but I can relate to Shiffrin's point in a slightly different way. Sometimes, one can point out/illustrate a new way of doing things where the motivation/argument for it is primarily theoretical. 1/

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    4. Manjari Narayan‏ @NeuroStats Jan 21
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      Replying to @NeuroStats @o_guest and

      Yet it seems most scientists & their communities don't accept purely theoretical arguments. So one tries to illustrate it empirically with a new kind of study or dataset. But the numbers/empirical evidence are often highly preliminary/weak. 2/

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Manjari Narayan‏ @NeuroStats Jan 21
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      Replying to @NeuroStats @o_guest and

      Yet for some reason the latter strategy seems to be persuasive & compelling in getting a field to think differently even when the actual empirical evidence is weak/flawed wasn't even necessary/crucial to make the whole argument. This is something I am trying to understand. 3/3

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    6. KordingLab‏ @KordingLab Jan 21
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      Replying to @NeuroStats @o_guest and

      Cargo cults...in the past, experiments have been successful at providing the data that has convinced the field. Therefore future experiments as opposed to theories matter.

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    7. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble Jan 21
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      Replying to @KordingLab @NeuroStats and

      If it worked for physics...

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    8. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Jan 21
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      Replying to @bradpwyble @KordingLab and

      Iris van Rooij Retweeted Nicole Barbaro

      See also:https://twitter.com/NicoleBarbaro/status/1086421809342414850 …

      Iris van Rooij added,

      Nicole Barbaro @NicoleBarbaro
      I continue to think that psych needs to rid itself of unhelpful disciplinary areas, and follow a physics model and split into theoretical and expirimental domain, each eith equal resource devotion and rigor.
      Show this thread
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    9. Tom Johnstone  🇦🇺 🇪🇺‏ @itjohnstone Jan 21
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @bradpwyble and

      I agree with the theoretical and empirical split. I would go even further with the disciplinary idea: I don't even think Psychology holds together as a research discipline at all. It only continues to exist as such because of university administrative needs.

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    10. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble Jan 21
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      Replying to @itjohnstone @IrisVanRooij and

      I'm not thrilled with the idea of a split. I think all theory folks should get their hands into raw data, even if they don't collect it.

      3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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      Replying to @bradpwyble @itjohnstone and

      I think if there's a split, some "data collecting" labs will be on both sides of the split. It'll be more of a theme-base split IMHO than a theory vs data-only one.

      3:03 PM - 21 Jan 2019
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      • Manjari Narayan KordingLab Brad Wyble Esther Mondragón Chris Madan 🐘🧠💻 Iris van Rooij
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        2. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Jan 21
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          Replying to @o_guest @bradpwyble and

          Team science is the future anyway ;)

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        3. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Jan 21
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          Replying to @IrisVanRooij @o_guest and

          Iris van Rooij Retweeted Dr Jenni Rodd

          Btw, on not collecting data, saw this come by the other day:https://twitter.com/jennirodd/status/1083443330145505280?s=21 …

          Iris van Rooij added,

          Dr Jenni Rodd @JenniRodd
          Here’s a thought: Our science would make better progress if we all collectively agreed to collect no data for the next 12 months and just took time out to read each other’s work and discuss how it fits together. There is SO much cool data out there that I have no clue about
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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Replying to @IrisVanRooij @bradpwyble and

          Yeah, classic.

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