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    1. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager Jan 21
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      Replying to @o_guest @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

      asking "what's the harm?" and then detailing reasons why he thinks there's no harm is a rhetorical device not a Q&A session

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    2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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      Replying to @economeager @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

      He also says" "Of course those who wish to use pre-registration should be free to do so"...

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    3. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager Jan 21
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      Replying to @o_guest @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

      yet the pre-registrations "would likely stifle progress", something we usually consider bad

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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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      Replying to @economeager @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

      He thinks that, but he also lets you all who want to use pre-reg use it. What's the problem? Do his thoughts have to be literally identical to yours? Obviously not.

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    5. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager Jan 21
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      Replying to @o_guest @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

      pre-registration has some great benefits as a unilateral decision but would have other effects if adopted as standard/mandatory. (Also do you respond to all debate and disagreement as if pushing back against you is somehow an an unreasonable demand for groupthink?)

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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      Replying to @economeager @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

      No, only when I feel like there is a bit of a weirdness.

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    7. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager Jan 21
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      Replying to @o_guest @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

      ok look i dont know what things are like in your field but in my field nobody can stop anyone doing pre-reg so the idea that some powerful guy would "let me" do pre-reg is meaningless, our battle is over whether to require it for everyone and if so how

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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      Replying to @economeager @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

      It would not make sense (to me) to require it for my work.

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    9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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      Replying to @o_guest @economeager and

      When I say he "lets", I mean he envisages a world where we can co-exist & he thinks that world is fine. Obviously, he's not the God of science. Principle of charity in our exchanges would go a long way to creating an environment for exchange of ideas & help with understanding.

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    10. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager Jan 21
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      Replying to @o_guest @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

      I agree that if someone I knew to be otherwise sensible had said this quote I would have asked them what they meant - but I still would have been taken aback. (It's also tough to call for charity when you just responded aggressively to me because you felt "a bit of a weirdness")

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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      Replying to @economeager @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

      Honestly, I get it if you don't like my personality or tone. But it's irrelevant to what I think we're discussing, unless you want to do an open review of my conduct, which obviously you are free to do. Modellers are a tiny minority in psychology, so yeah, I'm gonna "punch up".

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        2. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager Jan 21
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          Replying to @o_guest @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

          You're not punching up! You're defending a powerful old guy in your field against a random on twitter!

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Replying to @economeager @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

          He doesn't need me to defend him. AT ALL. I am defending myself because his ideas are valuable and helpful to me.

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        4. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Jan 21
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          Replying to @o_guest @economeager and

          As are for me and for many other experimental and computational psychologists.

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Replying to @twitemp1 @economeager and

          Yup, and as I said above, we're a tiny minority. In fact, we're often the butt of non-modeller's jokes. I've heard so many divergent negative views of us. Including in side-threads and in general on Twitter where people hint that we're not even in the same field. 😏

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