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    1. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager Jan 21
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      lol

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    2. simine vazire‏ @siminevazire Jan 21
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      Replying to @economeager @FrederickGuy4

      I’m glad you wrote lol because I couldn’t tell if that was sincere (econ humor is hard to understand sometimes 😬)

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    3. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager Jan 21
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      Replying to @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

      oh i dunno if he was joking but i loled either way

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    4. Frederick Guy‏ @FrederickGuy4 Jan 21
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      Replying to @economeager @siminevazire

      You're probably familiar with the argument that insider trading is efficiency-enhancing because it leads all knowledge to be reflected in market prices of stocks. This follows same principle, but with trade in dubious statistical artefacts instead of knowledge. And you scoff?

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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      Replying to @FrederickGuy4 @economeager @siminevazire

      I'm so confused. Where did Rich say that it's OK to lie or OK to do something akin to lying?

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    6. simine vazire‏ @siminevazire Jan 21
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      Replying to @o_guest @FrederickGuy4 @economeager

      “pretends that the new theory predicted the results and thereby confirms it” is arguably in the neighborhood of lying.

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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      Replying to @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4 @economeager

      But you think he says it's OK? Based on this, I guess? "What is the harm?" Not sure asking what the harm is the same as saying it's 100% OK.

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    8. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager Jan 21
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      Replying to @o_guest @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

      asking "what's the harm?" and then detailing reasons why he thinks there's no harm is a rhetorical device not a Q&A session

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    9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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      Replying to @economeager @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

      He also says" "Of course those who wish to use pre-registration should be free to do so"...

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    10. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager Jan 21
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      Replying to @o_guest @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

      yet the pre-registrations "would likely stifle progress", something we usually consider bad

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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      He thinks that, but he also lets you all who want to use pre-reg use it. What's the problem? Do his thoughts have to be literally identical to yours? Obviously not.

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        2. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager Jan 21
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          Replying to @o_guest @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

          pre-registration has some great benefits as a unilateral decision but would have other effects if adopted as standard/mandatory. (Also do you respond to all debate and disagreement as if pushing back against you is somehow an an unreasonable demand for groupthink?)

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Replying to @economeager @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

          No, only when I feel like there is a bit of a weirdness.

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        4. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager Jan 21
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          ok look i dont know what things are like in your field but in my field nobody can stop anyone doing pre-reg so the idea that some powerful guy would "let me" do pre-reg is meaningless, our battle is over whether to require it for everyone and if so how

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Replying to @economeager @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

          It would not make sense (to me) to require it for my work.

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        6. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager Jan 21
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          Replying to @o_guest @siminevazire @FrederickGuy4

          This is a debate that seems best to have within not across fields. But from outside your field, his statements look to be saying that it's ok to make misleading claims because people know you're making misleading claims; this is a bad message to put out about your field.

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        7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ

          Modelling (whether the math type as math psych people use or the cog type cog modellers like myself use — do not ask for a diff between us, huge discussion) is a different way of doing science and is applicable to many fields.https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/1087405254352822273 …

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          Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guest
          Replying to @RogertheGS @siminevazire
          OK, but you can do modelling in any field from chemistry to psychology (social inclusive). So I guess you are saying you don't do that much modelling in social?
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        8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Replying to @o_guest @economeager and

          I help out at a journal that does replication stuff (100% open science) for modelling (all fields welcome). So it's by no means true modellers don't care about evaluating their work.

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        9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Replying to @o_guest @economeager and

          To cast math modellers (like Rich's community), or any modellers, as not caring deeply about these issues would be a wrong assumption. But yeah, it's in part something psychology needs to deal with internally too. I agree with you there.

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