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    1. simine vazire‏ @siminevazire Jan 21
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      Trying and struggling to understand this perspective. I’ve watched longer talks by Shiffrin and still don’t get it. https://featuredcontent.psychonomic.org/complexity-of-science-v-psprereg/ …pic.twitter.com/XAADkgdIg0

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    2. Roger Giner-Sorolla‏ @RogertheGS Jan 21
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      Replying to @siminevazire

      It's an extreme stance of intellectual humility that somehow never seems to show up in psychologists' outward-facing statements or professional evaluation criteria.

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    3. simine vazire‏ @siminevazire Jan 21
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      Replying to @RogertheGS

      But you think it describes how our field actually works internally? And that it’d be an efficient way for it to function? Genuinely curious.

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    4. Roger Giner-Sorolla‏ @RogertheGS Jan 21
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      Replying to @siminevazire

      I think our field mostly operates on the "truth" assumption, but runs to the "scratch pad" one in defense against things such as failures to replicate.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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      Replying to @RogertheGS @siminevazire

      So Rich is more math psych. And I understand him. I really struggle to understand the perspective(s) of social/personality psych people quite a bit and often have to ask for more context. When I get it, I can see more about what why the position you all have is the way it is.

      9:22 AM - 21 Jan 2019
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      • Adam Osth Nathaniel Daw Tom Johnstone 🇦🇺🇪🇺 Dominic Mussack Esther Mondragón Iris van Rooij simine vazire Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Replying to @o_guest @RogertheGS @siminevazire

          Could that be it? As a modeller, I totally get Rich's angle. It feels the differences could be explained, at least in part, by what we see and do in our immediate sub(sub)fields?

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        3. simine vazire‏ @siminevazire Jan 21
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          Replying to @o_guest @RogertheGS

          Yes, I think it has to do with differences in our subfields. I’d really like to get it, & know if he means it as broadly as he’s saying it.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Replying to @siminevazire @RogertheGS

          I respect that and I think it's important to understand his points. I feel these perspective-related misunderstandings are pretty common although rarely resolved. Do you think this can be fixed by asking him or by understanding math psych better or a bit of both?

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        5. simine vazire‏ @siminevazire Jan 21
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          Replying to @o_guest @RogertheGS

          My ideal would be in-person discussions. I suspect we’d need back & forth, going down to the basics, to understand where the diffs stem from

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        6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Replying to @siminevazire @RogertheGS

          Agreed.

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        7. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Jan 21
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          Iris van Rooij Retweeted CompCogSci

          I agree, dialogue and building common ground and mutual understanding would be most beneficial IMO. I cannot link to my own account at the moment (because of the lock), but if I may, here some of my thoughts in this issue:https://twitter.com/CCS_donders/status/1087403274737733632 …

          Iris van Rooij added,

          CompCogSci @CCS_donders
          ”I see it as the next important challenge for open science to build more common ground with theory-driven researchers on what we need to move psychological science forward.”
          Show this thread
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        8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Replying to @IrisVanRooij @siminevazire @RogertheGS

          Thanks, Iris.

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        2. Roger Giner-Sorolla‏ @RogertheGS Jan 21
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          Replying to @o_guest @siminevazire

          Well, our field was set up to answer questions like "how to reduce prejudice?" and "how to get people to eat gizzards in wartime?" and continues a strong streak of answer-giving even when the questions become more philosophical.

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Replying to @RogertheGS @siminevazire

          What's "our field"? Soc/per psych?

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        4. Roger Giner-Sorolla‏ @RogertheGS Jan 21
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          Replying to @o_guest @siminevazire

          Yep, sorry.

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Replying to @RogertheGS @siminevazire

          Why do you think the question-asking aspect is unique to your sub-area? (I'm trying to avoid implying we're in different fields.)

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        6. Roger Giner-Sorolla‏ @RogertheGS Jan 21
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          Replying to @o_guest @siminevazire

          Experimental (social) psychology by its nature tends to focus on single yes/no questions that give evidence toward a theory, whereas modelling builds a representation to best-fit standards, if I have it right. Can't speak for any other area.

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        7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Replying to @RogertheGS @siminevazire

          OK, but you can do modelling in any field from chemistry to psychology (social inclusive). So I guess you are saying you don't do that much modelling in social?

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        8. Roger Giner-Sorolla‏ @RogertheGS Jan 21
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          Replying to @o_guest @siminevazire

          Some, but not much. For some reason you see SEM a lot in research on intergroup processes, for example.

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        9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 21
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          Replying to @RogertheGS @siminevazire

          Exactly, because they are orthogonal issues. I just want to underline: I am in an Experimental Psychology dept and for that reason as well as others, I consider myself in that (sub)field. So I am trying to understand you and others, who (I consider) are in the same field/dept.

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        2. Manjari Narayan‏ @NeuroStats Jan 21
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          Replying to @o_guest @RogertheGS @siminevazire

          I am not in this sub-field, but I can relate to Shiffrin's point in a slightly different way. Sometimes, one can point out/illustrate a new way of doing things where the motivation/argument for it is primarily theoretical. 1/

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        3. Manjari Narayan‏ @NeuroStats Jan 21
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          Replying to @NeuroStats @o_guest and

          Yet it seems most scientists & their communities don't accept purely theoretical arguments. So one tries to illustrate it empirically with a new kind of study or dataset. But the numbers/empirical evidence are often highly preliminary/weak. 2/

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        4. Manjari Narayan‏ @NeuroStats Jan 21
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          Replying to @NeuroStats @o_guest and

          Yet for some reason the latter strategy seems to be persuasive & compelling in getting a field to think differently even when the actual empirical evidence is weak/flawed wasn't even necessary/crucial to make the whole argument. This is something I am trying to understand. 3/3

          1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
        5. KordingLab‏ @KordingLab Jan 21
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          Replying to @NeuroStats @o_guest and

          Cargo cults...in the past, experiments have been successful at providing the data that has convinced the field. Therefore future experiments as opposed to theories matter.

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        6. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble Jan 21
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          Replying to @KordingLab @NeuroStats and

          If it worked for physics...

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        7. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Jan 21
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          Replying to @bradpwyble @KordingLab and

          Iris van Rooij Retweeted Nicole Barbaro

          See also:https://twitter.com/NicoleBarbaro/status/1086421809342414850 …

          Iris van Rooij added,

          Nicole Barbaro @NicoleBarbaro
          I continue to think that psych needs to rid itself of unhelpful disciplinary areas, and follow a physics model and split into theoretical and expirimental domain, each eith equal resource devotion and rigor.
          Show this thread
          2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
        8. Tom Johnstone  🇦🇺 🇪🇺‏ @itjohnstone Jan 21
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          Replying to @IrisVanRooij @bradpwyble and

          I agree with the theoretical and empirical split. I would go even further with the disciplinary idea: I don't even think Psychology holds together as a research discipline at all. It only continues to exist as such because of university administrative needs.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        9. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble Jan 21
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          Replying to @itjohnstone @IrisVanRooij and

          I'm not thrilled with the idea of a split. I think all theory folks should get their hands into raw data, even if they don't collect it.

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