Thanks yes Olivia, as you very well know these can’t be edited and if you look at the comments you’re about the 4th people perso. Yo day this. So I’d rather not get into a discussion about it.
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Sorry, should have looked more. I tried but twitter is shitty and it's often exhausting just trying to view subthreads. FWIW I think it's a really complex issue and probably one that will get/has got you a lot of blowback.
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I don’t mind too much. I find the attitudes around coding elitist. I’ve learnt from this that the way I use R isn’t even coding. So what do I know
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You use R and people tell you you aren't coding? What kind of arbitrary gatekeeping is that? I think it's okay not to code, but if you are doing it, people shouldn't tell you you're not...
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People saying you aren't coding when you "use R"... Wow. That's pretty b the definition of programming, using a programming language.
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But I have to say, yes, many are elitist... The sexism here is palpable... But... There are communities where you this just isn't true
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It does seem to be a common opinion I didn’t know of. If you only use functions you’re not really coding.
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Well, obviously there's levels of expertise. But they are playing the classic coders' (in the brogrammer world) fallacy (no true Scotsman variant). People say things like "C is the only true coding because it's closer to the metal." and on and on. Classic BS.
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It's not just a cool pun BTW. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brogrammer
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"This “JS = Scheme” meme was hugely legimitizing to a horde of programmers feeling unsure of themselves in the face of grizzly C programmers who allocated their own damn memory, probably right after building their own computer out of rocks and twigs." http://journal.stuffwithstuff.com/2013/07/18/javascript-isnt-scheme/ …
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To really boil it down though, just using libraries is what most coders do most of the time and it's legit good practise (for so many reasons, better tested code, etc). If you can't author your own functions though, you probably won't get a job as a programmer.
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Brogrammer though want to shuttle between "knowing how to code, the basics, etc" and actually being a software developer, treating them as synonyms where it suits their sexist/elitist argument.
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This is another fallacy. Knowing how to write and being a professional writer who gets paid to write are not synonyms. Many know how to write, few are paid to write in a professional setting.
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