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    1. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Jan 18
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      Iris van Rooij Retweeted Psychonomic Society

      Perhaps of interest @bradpwyble @JCSkewesDK @o_guest @zerdeve @rolandVM @RemiGau @wgervais @Alex_Danvers? Comments welcome.https://twitter.com/Psychonomic_Soc/status/1086161758509780992 …

      Iris van Rooij added,

      Psychonomic Society @Psychonomic_Soc
      #PSprereg continues @IrisVanRooij argues that psychological science needs theory development before preregistration https://featuredcontent.psychonomic.org/psychological-science-needs-theory-development-before-preregistration/ … @BrianNosek @EJWagenmakers
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    2. Alex Danvers‏ @Alex_Danvers Jan 18
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @bradpwyble and

      This was really wonderful & well-written. I have also read @EJWagenmakers recent blog post on preregistration in modeling work, and I am moved most strongly by your argument for limited resources.

      1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
    3. Alex Danvers‏ @Alex_Danvers Jan 18
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      Replying to @Alex_Danvers @IrisVanRooij and

      Instead of trying to be really certain that a surprising effect is true, I like the goal of trying to explain things that we already find interesting (how people learn language, or how people have social interactions). "How does it work?" is often the most interesting question

      1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
    4. Alex Danvers‏ @Alex_Danvers Jan 18
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      Replying to @Alex_Danvers @IrisVanRooij and

      I think @EJWagenmakers point that you need to test models that are developed through exploration on new data is a fair one, and it represents a particular stage of developing a scientific explanation. But I also feel that psychology needs explanations more than effects right now

      1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
    5. Alex Danvers‏ @Alex_Danvers Jan 18
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      Replying to @Alex_Danvers @IrisVanRooij and

      I have always harbored the hope that finding robust effects could lead us to ultimately develop theory by laying out what a good theory needs to account for. I still think that's true, and it does sometimes seem like an incisive experiment can help determine which theory is right

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    6. Alex Danvers‏ @Alex_Danvers Jan 18
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      Replying to @Alex_Danvers @IrisVanRooij and

      My secret concern in all this is that I don't quite have the math chops to contribute to psychology in the way that I want. I've got much more training in designing and running simple factorial experiments to establish effects than I do in formal modeling.

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    7. Alex Danvers‏ @Alex_Danvers Jan 18
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      Replying to @Alex_Danvers @IrisVanRooij and

      I think I would probably benefit more from further work understanding formal theory than establishing a lot of new effects, and I think that's generally true in psych. I hope it becomes a more mainstream part of the field (and more accessible for grad students to pick up).

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    8. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble Jan 18
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      Replying to @Alex_Danvers @IrisVanRooij and

      That would be my ideal too.

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    9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 18
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      Replying to @bradpwyble @Alex_Danvers and

      It would help if undergrads were taught to code and even model. Just like they are taught the very basics of other parts of psychology. More on my thoughts, of course, on my blog.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 18
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      Replying to @o_guest @bradpwyble and

      I think we all shy away too much from teaching them skills. Both my most recent post http://neuroplausible.com/programming  and my other post on Matlab http://neuroplausible.com/matlab  basically touch on this.

      4:32 PM - 18 Jan 2019
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 18
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          Replying to @o_guest @bradpwyble and

          The reasons are complex and don't just boil down to "modellers don't do good enough work" here IMHO.

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        3. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble Jan 18
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          Replying to @o_guest @Alex_Danvers and

          Yes there are a lot of reasons. I do think some modellers have embraced the mystique of the profession at everyone's expense but also the field has avoided trying to fix the problem at the curriculum level.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 18
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          Replying to @bradpwyble @Alex_Danvers and

          Some have. Usefully for them they, the worst cases, aren't on Twitter AFAIK.

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        5. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble Jan 18
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          Replying to @o_guest @Alex_Danvers and

          Let's talk about the better ones then. I really liked Mike Mozer's work on attention. He did a great job of breaking down complex topics and was a great role model for me.

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