The reason "bro" is such a good descriptive term is because unlike some of the other things said about the worst of #bropenscience this one sticks in a way they really don't like.
I'm for #openscience. That's why I care to criticise the frolicking brobots and their silliness.
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The recent debate/dialogue on open review has really show who wants to engage and who doesn't. The same people who want to formalise (correctly IMHO) open data and open methods, seem unable to grasp the need for a system (or systems) for open review.
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Computer science conferences do open review well (at least in theory). The reviews are de-anonymised and public after rebuttals and acceptance. Also
@eLife does it well, where reviews get published with replied at the end of the paper.1 reply 3 retweets 12 likesShow this thread -
Mixing and matching arbitrarily between closed review and open merely serves to bypass checks and consent. This creates a rich and richer scheme, exacerbating the power and privilege of the few.
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Comparing the engagement with the Profs' words, the ECR in this specific case (although I'm sure in other similar ones too) got completely ignored.
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Lessons to be learned here are so many. I hope people are trying to take something useful away here. I'm still grappling with the social dynamics here myself, but it's indubitably wrong to claim chaos is good for ECRs. What's good for us is stability, consent, being heard.
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Typo: Rich *get* richer.
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And since I know what's going to be said: "why are you against open review, Olivia?" Look, literally while this debate is was going on, I did an open review (with consent of authors, in a formal system) of a paper: https://doi.org/10.5256/f1000research.19054.r42058 … Maybe this example helps with nuance?
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What I'm trying to say is that labelling me (anybody, who comes from the open science community and presents criticism/feedback aimed towards dialogue and community discussion) as against open science is rhetoric. It's not based on my actions.
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