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    1. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing Jan 13
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      Replying to @tallinzen @KriegeskorteLab

      Yes, totally, the ICLR model addresses my concerns here. If the open review is anonymous, then the criticisms can stand on their own merit.

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    2. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble Jan 13
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      Replying to @tyrell_turing @tallinzen @KriegeskorteLab

      Sure but let's not imagine that it is always easy to hide one's identity, particularly for a highly prominent person, a lengthy review and a very contentious issue.

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    3. Kriegeskorte Lab‏ @KriegeskorteLab Jan 13
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      Replying to @bradpwyble @tyrell_turing @tallinzen

      anonymous comments should always be possible (e.g. in a preprint server's commenting system). but people, of course, also need to be free to blog and write papers, where they sign as the author. i hope we can just learn to be civil and stand by our scientific judgments.

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    4. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing Jan 13
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      Replying to @KriegeskorteLab @bradpwyble @tallinzen

      I agree, Niko, but you can abide by the principle of ppl being free to openly publish their criticisms in their name (on a blog, say) once an art. is published. I would argue that first reviewers have a duty not to influence new reviewers except via ideas (e.g. not credentials).

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    5. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing Jan 13
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      Replying to @andpru @KriegeskorteLab and

      I don’t know, good Q!

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 13
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      Replying to @tyrell_turing @andpru and

      Poisoning the well as @nathanieldaw mentioned is a real issue. That's why AFAIC NeurIPS and other conferences have a specific standard with blinding, replies from authors, and then de-anonymising when a paper is accepted.

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    7. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Jan 13
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      Replying to @o_guest @tyrell_turing and

      Yes, indeed! Ethical standards are needed to protect us from oligarchy and chaos.

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    8. deen-chan‏ @sir_deenicus Jan 13
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      Replying to @twitemp1 @o_guest and

      I think in addition to these, it's also worth considering why the well is poisonable in the first place. I don't agree with @KriegeskorteLab but I don't think they are wrong here. Who am I and why does what I think matter? This game is scale free, possessing self-similarity.

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    9. Nathaniel Daw‏ @nathanieldaw Jan 14
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      Replying to @sir_deenicus @twitemp1 and

      Can I amend the term "well poisoning"? I think the general issue is that sparse public reviews can have outsize influence on concurrent private review. Ppl won't complain if it promotes the paper but the arguable unfairness is the same.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 14
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      Replying to @nathanieldaw @sir_deenicus and

      That's how they do it at compsci conferences. People's complaints aren't irrelevant.

      1:39 AM - 14 Jan 2019
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        2. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Jan 14
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          Replying to @o_guest @nathanieldaw and

          Re-examining the purpose of the peer review system and the role that a reviewer plays in it may help. Call me naïve, but it’d say that the practice aims at guaranteeing that a paper meets some given scientific standards;

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        3. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Jan 14
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          Replying to @twitemp1 @o_guest and

          the reviewers’ task that of assessing whether the work conforms or can meet these standards and helping the authors to achieve them. Any reviewers' action that deviates from that function could/should perhaps be considered unethical.

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        4. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Jan 14
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          Replying to @twitemp1 @o_guest and

          Public comments from peers not involved or confabulated with reviewers is a different matter, yet one would expect colleagues to abide by civilised manners and professional courtesy.

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