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    1. Grissom Lab‏ @NicolaGrissom Jan 4

      For essentially every being *other* than powerful people, life is nasty, brutish, and short, and shorter if you mess up. In light of this, choosing to *change* strategies, particularly after finding one that works well enough, goes against "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

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    2. Grissom Lab‏ @NicolaGrissom Jan 4

      There is an implicit requirement in decision making tasks that exploration must be required for making good decisions, because otherwise, how would you know what is optimal, or even available? But this requirement reveals the biases of the people who set up the system.

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    3. Grissom Lab‏ @NicolaGrissom Jan 4

      First, it assumes that there is some knowable "optimal" choice that gets the most physical reward, be it money or sugar. It is foolish to pretend that this is a state that exists the real world. Don't @ me with "no one really believes this" bc I have talked to scientists who do.

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    4. Grissom Lab‏ @NicolaGrissom Jan 4

      Second, it assumes that maximizing the physical reward is a obviously best. But what if the subject values ease? What if the subject values safety? And what if choosing an easy, safe strategy produces some physical reward anyway? Why stress over getting a little bit more?

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    5. Grissom Lab‏ @NicolaGrissom Jan 4

      I'm beginning to question the assumption that exploration is a quality of good decision making. In human work, it assumes that people have lived safe lives where seeking information has resulted in good outcomes. This is not a valid assumption for much of humanity.

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    6. Grissom Lab‏ @NicolaGrissom Jan 4

      In animal work, this assumption creates lots of puzzling observations, where animals seem to do something "nonoptimal" that actually reveals *we* don't understand what they value. For example, mice come from an ecological niche where exploration means they are likely to be eaten.

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    7. Grissom Lab‏ @NicolaGrissom Jan 4

      The focus on information seeking as an active process necessary to good decision making conflates exploration and strategy selection. It is an accident of laboratory tasks that are set up to reward exploration.

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    8. Grissom Lab‏ @NicolaGrissom Jan 4

      But what if information could be gathered without overt exploration? We find that this is the case - for female mice more than males. Stay tuned!

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    9. Adam J Calhoun‏Verified account @neuroecology Jan 4
      Replying to @NicolaGrissom

      do you mean this in a way fundamentally differently from, say, an animal sitting in front of a screen integrating new perceptual information (even when it's a blank screen)? if that analogy makes sense

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    10. Grissom Lab‏ @NicolaGrissom Jan 4
      Replying to @neuroecology

      i do, as it turns out. for simplicity, until the paper is together, think about how decisions can be influenced by pavlovian cues, that no one can explore for, as much as by operant associations

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 5
      Replying to @NicolaGrissom @neuroecology

      Awesome thread. BTW have you seen this https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-016-0017 … by @ProfData? It shows exactly what you describe happening in the supermarket. People prefer to buy stuff they've already bought as opposed to exploring new stuff often. @adamhornsby is working on more as we type too.

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        2. Grissom Lab‏ @NicolaGrissom Jan 5
          Replying to @o_guest @neuroecology and

          Omg I hadn't seen this and it's totally in line with this intuition, thank you!!

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 5
          Replying to @NicolaGrissom @neuroecology and

          You are super welcome. ☺️

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 5
          Replying to @o_guest @NicolaGrissom and

          Ooops. @adamnhornsby!!

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