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    1. D Robinson, PhD‏ @daniellecrobins 12 Dec 2018
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      original also used the term 'citizen science' which is problematic. Community science is a term that makes no assumptions or requirements about participants citizenship.

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    2. D Robinson, PhD‏ @daniellecrobins 12 Dec 2018
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      Then there was that one dude who asked if 'equity, diversity, inclusion' were slightly off center because they less important. Um, no. That was just sloppy formatting. so we made it look slicker.

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    3. D Robinson, PhD‏ @daniellecrobins 12 Dec 2018
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      When those questions are raised - whether in good faith or not - I return to the question of "open for whom?" If we believe in opening scholarship we must also believe in opening the practice and profession of scholarship.

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    4. D Robinson, PhD‏ @daniellecrobins 12 Dec 2018
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      Pursuing open science/scholarship for the sake of other scientists/scholars. In other words only the folks already in it (or in the pipeline) is a dangerously narrow view that threatens to recreate an inequities of the academy in a new "open" system.

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    5. D Robinson, PhD‏ @daniellecrobins 12 Dec 2018
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      been writing more about it here -https://osaos.codeforscience.org/what-is-open/ 

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 12 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @daniellecrobins

      Exactly! Why make it "open" if nobody can access it?

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 12 Dec 2018
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      If it's only open to white dudes in "good" labs, then why even have an open movement? If you're going to push minorities away, then what's actually radically different than just having your old boys network? What's actually being opened up?

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    8. D Robinson, PhD‏ @daniellecrobins 12 Dec 2018
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      the answer is nothing! just recreating existing exclusive structures because it's easy/comfortable/etc. the same vitriol that Elsevier receives should also be directed at white supremacy and patriarchy in the academy - just as bad or worse than corporate control of scholarship

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    9. Penny CS Andrews  🌈 🔥‏ @pennyb 12 Dec 2018
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      And yet creepy white dudes with a history of harassing women keynote every week

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    10. D Robinson, PhD‏ @daniellecrobins 12 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @pennyb @o_guest

      Exactly

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 12 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @daniellecrobins @pennyb

      Every time I've brought this up, I get pushback: both why being anti-discrimination, pro-inclusivity, etc., is not relevant to open science (because open "doesn't mean that") but also about how open science isn't a community or movement and so needs no notion of inclusivity.

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        2. Dr Aidan Budd  🐈‏ @AidanBudd 12 Dec 2018
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          I realised that over the last year I've become much less of an advocate for stuff labeled "Open Science" for these reasons. I've banged on about this before, I know, but I think I'd rather be doing "Inclusive Science" than "Open Science"

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 12 Dec 2018
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          Well I created #bropenscience to mock these people. I think open science can't be left to them.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 12 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @AidanBudd and

          Another funny thing that happens is that people think open science is about the replication crisis in psychology (my field). These ahistorical takes are cringe-worthy but also I realise Ph.D. students are not being told explicit clear facts about the movement.

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