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    1. Dr Owain Kenway‏ @owainkenway 6 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @owainkenway @o_guest @dvalts

      I mean, my only other more general comment about the notebook concept (not just Jupyter) is that there were a number of tools in the 90s with a similar interface called "the worksheet" and this interface was completely abandoned for pretty much the reasons I describe.

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    2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 6 Dec 2018
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      Yes, it's flimsy and hype-driven.

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    3. Titus Brown‏ @ctitusbrown 6 Dec 2018
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      I think this is wildly unfair... jup met and meets many of my needs for interactive data analysis that were unmet in the 90s, when I was also doing research ;). Most alternatives were closed, none were web based, etc etc. I’m sure there are better things possible, of course.

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    4. Titus Brown‏ @ctitusbrown 6 Dec 2018
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      And when you combine with the ecosystem level stuff, including JupyterHub and Binder, I don’t see alternatives... the expansion to JupyterLab (and other alternative frontends) shows that this is a platform approach that works.

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 6 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @ctitusbrown @owainkenway @dvalts

      Sorry, I don't know if we will agree on this, but I actually think I agree with you as well as with the harsh stuff I said.

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 6 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @ctitusbrown and

      And I use jupyter pretty much all the time.

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    7. Dr Owain Kenway‏ @owainkenway 6 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @ctitusbrown @dvalts

      It's definitely a tool that has its uses. I think it is often misused though. I'm quite keen when I get a chance to play with the Jupyter Notebook <-> Visual Studio Code stuff. You know, in my infinite time!

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 6 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @owainkenway @ctitusbrown @dvalts

      I think my logic from my Matlab post is exactly what the issue is here: "GUIs and IDEs are great — just like once we already know how to drive using a manual transmission we can easily switch to automatic — but they predominantly do not push us to develop our skills further."

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    9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 6 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @owainkenway and

      "If we want to we can switch to a fancy IDE after we already know the tougher stuff. We learn multiplication tables off by heart before we switch to using our smartphone as a calculator." Tools are tools. Not universal solutions.

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    10. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 6 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @owainkenway and

      "Research will throw harder programming tasks at us than quickly making graphs or fast matrix multiplication. Thus we need to accept that sometimes learning new things can be hard (as well as fun)."

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 6 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @owainkenway and

      Everybody in this thread knows that, but many students just are not taught this!

      8:21 AM - 6 Dec 2018
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