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    1. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 30 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @LEdeRuiter @IrisVanRooij

      I'll let Iris clarify, but I suspect she means a specific brand of open science. Other fields, for example, do not have the specific type of very very empirical non-modeling take on open science that our field has taken.

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    2. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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      Indeed. As said "I agree ofc, #openscience if *done well* does not obstruct theoretical progress. But in current practice it does." That is my point.

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    3. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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      Current practice is dominated by empiricist voices and concerns that clearly are having this negative side-effect. And I am trying to draw attention to the damaging effects that is has and really, I believe, will set our science back by decades.

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    4. Andrew & Sabrina‏ @PsychScientists 30 Nov 2018
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      This is super weird. Why would anyone/ any journal think this?

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    5. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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      I fully agree. It is worrisome. These days "theory" and "modeling" seems to superficially look like a QRP.

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    6. Andrew & Sabrina‏ @PsychScientists 30 Nov 2018
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      How? Genuinely curious for your take, I can’t see it (I say coming off a morning finishing revisions on the deepest theory cut I’ve ever done :)

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    7. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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      My take is in the OP. Most of the most active #openscience advocates disagree with it. That is part of the problem.

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 30 Nov 2018
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      The replication crisis and the rise of open science in psychology coincided to make a fucking mess for this specific issue.

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    9. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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      Good point. That may have indeed been an unfortunate confluence of events.

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    10. Laura de Ruiter‏ @LEdeRuiter 30 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @o_guest @PsychScientists

      Isn't the open science movement a reaction to the replication crisis? (Maybe I misunderstood what you said, but it sounded a bit like that was coincidental)

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 30 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @LEdeRuiter @IrisVanRooij @PsychScientists

      No. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_science#History …

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        2. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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          Possibly the (mis)perception in psych that indeed OS is a response to the replication crisis, and serves that purpose specifically, is part of what is now creating these problems that I am alluding to?

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        3. Laura de Ruiter‏ @LEdeRuiter 30 Nov 2018
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          Thanks for that- I'll have some reading to do!

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        4. Laura de Ruiter‏ @LEdeRuiter 30 Nov 2018
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          My impression (perhaps wrongly) was that the psych community was particularly receptive to OS concepts because of the replication crisis. If I understand you correctly, you're saying that parts of psych are taking a too narrow view of OS?

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        5. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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          Yes, I am saying that most prominent advocates of OS in psych science take a too narrow view of open psych science.

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        6. Andrew & Sabrina‏ @PsychScientists 30 Nov 2018
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          So what does open science modelling/theory look like?

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        7. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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          What do you think it should look like?

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        8. Andrew & Sabrina‏ @PsychScientists 30 Nov 2018
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          I guess I’m asking what do you want that isn’t part of the current OS approach?

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        9. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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          Have you read my concerns above? What I want is *not* that. Not asking for anything else at the moment. OS modelers are developing suitable practices, tools, ways of working and thinking, but it requires not being blocked by inappropriate empiricist criteria.

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