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    1. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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      Iris van Rooij Retweeted Iris van Rooij

      Seems apropos to give this message a reboost in current #openscience climate & seeing that even editors of purported theoretical psych journals do not get this point anymore:https://twitter.com/irisvanrooij/status/966967829873471488?s=21 …

      Iris van Rooij added,

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      Unpopular opinion: It is not a theory’s primary job to make predictions for experimentalists to test.
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    2. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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      Dear #openscience ethusiasts, what are you doing to psychology? You want to make it better, but are damaging key processes needed for the theoretical advancement.

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    3. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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      It isn’t that our field’s theoretical foundations were so strong to begin with. If it were, we could take a dent. But it seems rather that current push in practices will set us back 50-100 years or more.

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    4. Laura de Ruiter‏ @LEdeRuiter 30 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij

      I think ppl have said this already, but for me the two (open science, theory building) are not mutually exclusive. If journals don’t let you publish theory papers (if that’s what you’re saying) that’s just silly.

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    5. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @LEdeRuiter

      It’s worse at the moment, they even think papers that bring theoretical computational models in contract with empirical findings should be stripped of the model. I agree ofc, #openscience if *done well* does not obstruct theoretical progress. But in current practice it does.

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    6. Laura de Ruiter‏ @LEdeRuiter 30 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij

      Wow, that doesn’t make any sense! I’m sorry that this is happening. We must make sure not to throw out the baby with the bath water - in both directions (ie, not throwing out models, not discarding open science).

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 30 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @LEdeRuiter @IrisVanRooij

      Very roughly, I would say that's a misplaced claim as modellers are highly likely to do open science.

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    8. Laura de Ruiter‏ @LEdeRuiter 30 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @IrisVanRooij

      I was just responding to Iris’s report that editors are asking to remove models im the name of open science, and her statement that open science could be throwing back psychology.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 30 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @LEdeRuiter @IrisVanRooij

      I'll let Iris clarify, but I suspect she means a specific brand of open science. Other fields, for example, do not have the specific type of very very empirical non-modeling take on open science that our field has taken.

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        2. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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          Indeed. As said "I agree ofc, #openscience if *done well* does not obstruct theoretical progress. But in current practice it does." That is my point.

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        3. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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          Current practice is dominated by empiricist voices and concerns that clearly are having this negative side-effect. And I am trying to draw attention to the damaging effects that is has and really, I believe, will set our science back by decades.

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        4. Andrew & Sabrina‏ @PsychScientists 30 Nov 2018
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          This is super weird. Why would anyone/ any journal think this?

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        5. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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          I fully agree. It is worrisome. These days "theory" and "modeling" seems to superficially look like a QRP.

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        6. Andrew & Sabrina‏ @PsychScientists 30 Nov 2018
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          How? Genuinely curious for your take, I can’t see it (I say coming off a morning finishing revisions on the deepest theory cut I’ve ever done :)

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        7. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @PsychScientists @o_guest @LEdeRuiter

          My take is in the OP. Most of the most active #openscience advocates disagree with it. That is part of the problem.

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        8. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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          Iris van Rooij Retweeted Iris van Rooij

          I mean, this one:https://twitter.com/IrisVanRooij/status/966967829873471488 …

          Iris van Rooij added,

          Iris van Rooij @IrisVanRooij
          Unpopular opinion: It is not a theory’s primary job to make predictions for experimentalists to test.
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        9. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 30 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @IrisVanRooij @PsychScientists and

          You should see the quote tweets I am getting for tweeting that 😂

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