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    1. Ryan Pepper‏ @r_a_p_92 27 Nov 2018
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      One thing that's maybe worth considering is the relative academic ability of the students too. To get entry to a 'traditional' science subject, you normally need to have very decent A Level grades even at lower ranked institutions.

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    2. Ryan Pepper‏ @r_a_p_92 27 Nov 2018
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      The academic ability is never going to be an issue at higher-ranked Universities in social science subjects, and shouldn't be an argument against teaching programming to social scientists, but it might be much more of an issue for lower ranked ones with A Level reqs that are low

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    3. Ryan Pepper‏ @r_a_p_92 27 Nov 2018
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      + there's likely to be resistance at that end too because 'cheap to run' courses are seen as a way of propping up more expensive ones by management, and adding computing labs is a surefire way to make a course more expensive to run. Many courses are non-accredited at low end too.

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    4. Ryan Pepper‏ @r_a_p_92 27 Nov 2018
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      But of course, if computing education was actually introduced in schools appropriately, it would be much less of an issue regardless because everyone would have some familiarity with basics anyway.

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 27 Nov 2018
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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ

      I did bring this up in my blog. See:https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/1067367826363682816 …

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guest
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      100% agreed! It is heartening to read about the fact that a few countries agree w us. See: "The sooner we start teaching kids to code, the better. I think everybody should be taught to code in primary school and thankfully so do quite a few countries." http://neuroplausible.com/programming 
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    6. Ryan Pepper‏ @r_a_p_92 27 Nov 2018
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      I read it! The biggest issue with the U.K. way of doing it was that they basically just told a bunch of teachers with no prior computing experience to start teaching programming

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 27 Nov 2018
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      I don't know anything about schooling in the UK. I have no first hand experience of what it is like, but it seems really bad. At my school, not in the UK, we had no issues with teachers teaching us coding because we have no issues training women to be coders.

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    8. Ryan Pepper‏ @r_a_p_92 27 Nov 2018
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      I think the baseline level of knowledge is low everywhere in the U.K. to be honest. When I did IT at school (2004-2009) it involved learning how to use Excel and PowerPoint - no programming at all

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    9. Ryan Pepper‏ @r_a_p_92 27 Nov 2018
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      I helped run a Computing for Schools workshop in 2015 when the Micro:bit was released, and I was quite shocked at how low the level of knowledge was among the teachers we were training who were already teaching Computing GCSE

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    10. Ryan Pepper‏ @r_a_p_92 27 Nov 2018
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      To the level of not knowing what object orientation was for e.g. - most of them had been career changers into teaching from professional services type roles

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 27 Nov 2018
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      Depressing.

      3:05 AM - 27 Nov 2018
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