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    1. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 26 Nov 2018
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      New blog post! 👩🏻‍💻👨🏿‍💻👩🏾‍💻👨🏽‍💻👩🏼‍💻👩🏿‍💻👨🏻‍💻 Why women in psychology can't program "About two months ago my brother, who works in a data science on social psychology data, asked me why his colleagues, who are women and have PhDs in psychology, cannot code"http://neuroplausible.com/programming 

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    2. Vince Knight‏ @drvinceknight 26 Nov 2018
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      "*makes hissing noises at SPSS* " 🤣 Great post (as always) Olivia. Thank you for writing it.

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    3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 26 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @drvinceknight

      Thank you! It's been a funny few days. I finally rage-wrote this thing that's been brewing for months. ☺️

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    4. Jan-Philip van Acken‏ @jpvanacken 27 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @drvinceknight

      After the SPSS-hissing and the neither open source nor free point you mentioned I do wonder what you think of PSPP. The GUI argument holds, but at least it's free and open source software. While on topic: Any opinion on (what I perceive to be) very low user numbers and awareness?

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 27 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @jpvanacken @drvinceknight

      I think it's about a balance. If you want to teach a GUI, I'd like to see a really good reason over teaching R.

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    6. Jan-Philip van Acken‏ @jpvanacken 27 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @drvinceknight

      "Legacy reasons" is the only ones I can come up with, the mantra of "we have always done it like this and all of our textbooks were written with this in mind" I do not have one within reach, but iirc statistics books used on me had SPSS GUI pictures; not a "really good reason".

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 27 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @jpvanacken @drvinceknight

      OK, yeah. Agreed then!

      2:02 AM - 27 Nov 2018
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        2. Ian Hawke‏ @IanHawke 27 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @jpvanacken @drvinceknight

          A GUI *can* lower cognitive load by having a layout similar to something students know (eg, opening, loading and saving in RStudio or spyder looks like MS Office, which most will know from school). However, this argument applies more to IDEs than what I think you mean by GUIs.

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        3. Ian Hawke‏ @IanHawke 27 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @IanHawke @o_guest and

          Ian Hawke Retweeted Sophie Kenny

          And whilst a GUI *can* add constraints (as noted by https://twitter.com/SophieSKenny/status/1067420618877005824 …), when teaching novices constraints can be useful (avoids the "blank page freeze" problem), provided they don't get in the way of doing "real" stuff.

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          Sophie Kenny @SophieSKenny
          Students might want GUIs but that is not a reason in of itself to teach them to use a GUI <- Although this idea is underdeveloped in the post, I agree with the sentiment. My take? GUIs also constrain researchers to designs that exist within the boundaries of drop-down menus. https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/1067079340507217920 …
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        4. Ian Hawke‏ @IanHawke 27 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @IanHawke @o_guest and

          That's the limit of (very weak) justifications for GUIs that I can come up with, however...

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