Not surprising at all. These things are something you learn to love. I've mentioned all these effects in this thread. Undergrads are constantly undervalued, but the kids are alright.
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Replying to @o_guest @dalejbarr and
I've heard others say that skeptics of teaching R just need to see Glasgow UG students at posters to be convinced that it is possible.
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Replying to @djnavarro @richarddmorey and
I also taught intro stats in R to large undergrad classes and now do it in large grad classes. I highly recommend doing everything in R Markdown (demos and homework). Students really like it.
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Replying to @AndrewRAConway @djnavarro and
absolutely, and here is the empirical evidence they prefer RMarkdown: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1402.1894.pdf …pic.twitter.com/2IoYnwwAou
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Replying to @dalejbarr @richarddmorey and
What was the control condition? *runs away*
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Replying to @sTeamTraen @richarddmorey and
Well, the fact that only 14% of students in that (required) course say they would rather cut and paste their results into Word than use RMarkdown says a lot about the difference between what students want and what staff think they want
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Replying to @dalejbarr @sTeamTraen and
People think other people need GUIs. But I don't believe them. The only reason people think a GUI or IDE is intuitive is because those arguing for it already know how to use it.
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Replying to @o_guest @dalejbarr and
I seem to recall back in the 90s or 2000s some research with CLIs vs GUIs with older adults that showed, counterintuitively, that they could handle the CLI much easier because it wasn't full of distracting things (lots of icons, etc). They could focus on a single task. >
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Replying to @richarddmorey @o_guest and
> Every time I fire up SPSS with its unnecessary windows and a million menu options that aren't organised in any way that makes sense, I think of that research.
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This was my whole argument with http://neuroplausible.com/matlab . I see how students uses to use it when I taught it. It hurt my brain the things it guided them, tricked them, into doing. IDEs are such a bad idea for beginners especially if they allow you to edit variables on the fly.
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