The argument seems to be, I'm paraphrasing, "psych people can't deal with complex stuff" which really boils down to "I can't teach them complex stuff". Taken at face value the argument is psych researchers are not clever — reality of course is not aligned really with that view.
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Yes, staff are sharing their stories of changing their courses to include programming modules.
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Scroll up and down this side-thread, for example: https://twitter.com/djnavarro/status/1066404110033813505?s=19 …
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@lingtax but from my point of view the challenge is not in creating the modules or fitting in the content. As you've highlighted there are a lot of excellent people who act as role models in that regard. I'm convinced it's important and worthwhile -
The challenge I have is that I don't run our undergrad research methods program so need to be able to convince my colleagues the same. In the meantime I teach R to all of our research students and bide my time.
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That sounds tough.
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Hi Olivia, i think you may have mistaken my intent. I have seen these posts and actually went to adelaide to speak to staff there about their change. I was merely commenting on my personal frustrations with my own attempts, not making any form of general claim.
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Would perhaps something like this help convince them? Guest, O. & Rougier, N. P. (2016). Dialogue: What is Computational Reproducibility?. IEEE CIS Newsletter on Cognitive and Developmental Systems. 13 (2). http://oliviaguest.com/doc/guest_rougier_2016.pdf …
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Let's just say I'm not universally admired and trying to convince some "important" people to read a paper that will convince them I'm right seems like a strategy that's not destined for success. Mostly because I'm selling it.
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Can we try just leaving copies of important papers on the floor or near printers?
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The only way anybody "listens" to me seems to be if they repeat back what I said to me as if I never said it.

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I'm moving onto my default strategy of getting people to do what I think they ought for reasons other than i proposed, or because I've convinced 3rd parties to advocate it for their own sake.
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