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    1. Richard D. Morey‏ @richarddmorey 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @dalejbarr and

      I've heard others say that skeptics of teaching R just need to see Glasgow UG students at posters to be convinced that it is possible.

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    2. Andrew R. A. Conway, Ph.D.‏ @AndrewRAConway 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @djnavarro @richarddmorey and

      I also taught intro stats in R to large undergrad classes and now do it in large grad classes. I highly recommend doing everything in R Markdown (demos and homework). Students really like it.

      3 replies 7 retweets 30 likes
    3. Matt Craddock‏ @Matt_Craddock 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @AndrewRAConway @djnavarro and

      I've been teaching msc stats this semester and have been using rmarkdown throughout for exercises etc. All slides written in Rmarkdown too! Mostly seem to like it but do struggle a bit with chunks (accidentally deleting back ticks etc) and when something goes wrong...

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    4. Nick Brown‏ @sTeamTraen 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @Matt_Craddock @AndrewRAConway and

      This is my general worry about trying to teach UGs (in almost any subject) how to code (in any language) as part of their course. Debugging is *hard* and can be very stressful --- and I've been doing it since 1975! They may not see it as part of "Why I signed up for psychology".

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    5. Dale Barr‏ @dalejbarr 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @sTeamTraen @Matt_Craddock and

      All true, and I agree that students need a lot of support, and many of them also need to be shown why these skills are so important. They eventually get it (as evidenced by the popularity of the optional 4th year stats course), but the first year can be challenging

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    6. Nick Brown‏ @sTeamTraen 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @dalejbarr @Matt_Craddock and

      I'm a bit concerned about people who already maybe didn't realise that psychology is, like, a science. But I'm coming round to the view that they may not be any more inconvenienced by R than by stats.

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    7. Dale Barr‏ @dalejbarr 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @sTeamTraen @Matt_Craddock and

      We don't really present it to them in terms of learning R. We present it in terms of the skills that are required to manage and make sense of large, complex datasets and to perform reproducible and transparent analyses

      1 reply 2 retweets 12 likes
    8. Dr. Candice Coker Morey‏ @CandiceMorey 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @dalejbarr @sTeamTraen and

      I've taught SPSS to year 1 UGs, and can attest that they don't find it intuitive or obvious. That's one reason (along with seeing examples of unis teaching R at UG level successfully) that convinces me that deciding to switch is the biggest hurdle, not UG capability or drive.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @djnavarro @CandiceMorey and

      Sure, debugging never gets easy nor thankfully less addictive. What's sad is I find debugging easier, so much easier and less stressful, than making talks or writing papers. I wish I was taught more of that (I did compsci UG). Lots of things are genuinely hard. And that's OK.

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        2. Nick Brown‏ @sTeamTraen 24 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @djnavarro and

          I also did comp sci UG (a million years ago). I was actually pleased to be able to write code, which I was quite good at, versus trying to work out why so much of (academic) comp sci, circa 1980 anyway, didn't appear to require a computer at all...

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        3. Nick Brown‏ @sTeamTraen 24 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @sTeamTraen @o_guest and

          FWIW, I find stats harder than coding, but ask me in another 36 years when I'll have been doing stats for as long as I have currently been writing code.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @sTeamTraen @djnavarro and

          I find writing English harder than coding. 😂

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @sTeamTraen and

          Not to mention... I find this thread itself harder than coding.

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        1. Richard D. Morey‏ @richarddmorey 24 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @djnavarro and

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