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    1. Jim A.C. Everett  🏳️‍🌈‏ @JimACEverett 24 Nov 2018
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      And actually, this likely to be particularly bad for working class students.

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    2. Nick Brown‏ @sTeamTraen 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @JimACEverett @aeronlaffere and

      This is starting to sound like an empirical question. 😀 I used to incline towards pessimism, in that people who are put off by "(the idea of doing)" stats may also not like "(ditto) coding", but if those are correlated .9 then maybe there's no extra penalty for adding coding.

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    3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2018
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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ

      I said that already! 🤣https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/1066385451907452928 …

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guest
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      They teach stats at undergrad, which is QUINTESSENTIALLY a STEM tool. What does coding change from the current system? Also all kids do basic coding at school in the UK now (as well as where I grew up). Anyway many Psych courses do teach coding now.
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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @aeronlaffere and

      Adding in coding changes nothing. In fact it helps relieve rote learning SPSS menus.

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    5. Nick Brown‏ @sTeamTraen 24 Nov 2018
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      Agreed... now I have 2 concrete concerns: 1. Where will the time come from to teach coding? (Not sure that "From the time not spent learning SPSS clicking" will be sufficient.) It's easy to have ideas for adding to a curriculum, but nobody wants their stuff to have less time.

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    6. Nick Brown‏ @sTeamTraen 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @sTeamTraen @o_guest and

      And 2. at least in the first phase, where will the teachers come from? People who can code well can make good $$ outside academia (another reason it's a great skill to teach, of course!), so I wonder who wants to be their department R expert for peanuts on a precarious contract.

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2018
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      Well, given this happens at UCL, at the MSc level (one year course p much everybody does before PhD, just to make sure USA ppl understand), we can know. The lecturer who teaches research methods teaches R, and same for the one who teaches coding for experiments (Python and JS).

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    8. Matthew Hankins‏ @mc_hankins 24 Nov 2018
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      My only concern with this is that statistics and coding are different skills. The biggest barrier I saw to learning was teaching the concepts and the implementation in the same session. I think they need to be separate initially.

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    9. David Colquhoun‏ @david_colquhoun 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @mc_hankins @o_guest and

      yes, they are quite different, and coding is useful for a lot of things apart from statistics, so should be started at school. That being said, surely all stats courses should include some E

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @david_colquhoun @mc_hankins and

      A bit of E to help them bond. 🤣

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