On other hand, if there was more coding built in to course, universities would likely take this into account for admissions, and if women less likely to take STEM at A-level, this could actually make it worse. Don’t think its reasonable to assume no bad consequences
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Replying to @JimACEverett @aeronlaffere and
And actually, this likely to be particularly bad for working class students.
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This is starting to sound like an empirical question.
I used to incline towards pessimism, in that people who are put off by "(the idea of doing)" stats may also not like "(ditto) coding", but if those are correlated .9 then maybe there's no extra penalty for adding coding.1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes -
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Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ
I said that already!
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Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guestReplying to @JimACEverett @aeronlaffere and 4 othersThey teach stats at undergrad, which is QUINTESSENTIALLY a STEM tool. What does coding change from the current system? Also all kids do basic coding at school in the UK now (as well as where I grew up). Anyway many Psych courses do teach coding now.1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes -
Replying to @o_guest @aeronlaffere and
Adding in coding changes nothing. In fact it helps relieve rote learning SPSS menus.
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Replying to @o_guest @aeronlaffere and
Agreed... now I have 2 concrete concerns: 1. Where will the time come from to teach coding? (Not sure that "From the time not spent learning SPSS clicking" will be sufficient.) It's easy to have ideas for adding to a curriculum, but nobody wants their stuff to have less time.
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And 2. at least in the first phase, where will the teachers come from? People who can code well can make good $$ outside academia (another reason it's a great skill to teach, of course!), so I wonder who wants to be their department R expert for peanuts on a precarious contract.
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Well, given this happens at UCL, at the MSc level (one year course p much everybody does before PhD, just to make sure USA ppl understand), we can know. The lecturer who teaches research methods teaches R, and same for the one who teaches coding for experiments (Python and JS).
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My only concern with this is that statistics and coding are different skills. The biggest barrier I saw to learning was teaching the concepts and the implementation in the same session. I think they need to be separate initially.
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Well, I listed two separate classes. The latter teaches thm how to code explicitly.
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