And actually, this likely to be particularly bad for working class students.
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Replying to @JimACEverett @aeronlaffere and
This is starting to sound like an empirical question.
I used to incline towards pessimism, in that people who are put off by "(the idea of doing)" stats may also not like "(ditto) coding", but if those are correlated .9 then maybe there's no extra penalty for adding coding.1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes -
Replying to @aeronlaffere @sTeamTraen and
Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ
I said that already!
https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/1066385451907452928 …Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,
Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guestReplying to @JimACEverett @aeronlaffere and 4 othersThey teach stats at undergrad, which is QUINTESSENTIALLY a STEM tool. What does coding change from the current system? Also all kids do basic coding at school in the UK now (as well as where I grew up). Anyway many Psych courses do teach coding now.1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes -
Replying to @o_guest @aeronlaffere and
Adding in coding changes nothing. In fact it helps relieve rote learning SPSS menus.
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Replying to @o_guest @aeronlaffere and
Agreed... now I have 2 concrete concerns: 1. Where will the time come from to teach coding? (Not sure that "From the time not spent learning SPSS clicking" will be sufficient.) It's easy to have ideas for adding to a curriculum, but nobody wants their stuff to have less time.
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Replying to @sTeamTraen @o_guest and
There were certain members of staff who took on an extra load to make this happen (staff training, curriculum development). But in terms of sacrificing other content, it wasn't necessary. It was just a matter of replacing outdated (and often poorly delivered or redundant) content
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Replying to @dalejbarr @sTeamTraen and
We did introduce a fourth-year option of Advanced Statistics, but amazingly, it was our students who petitioned for this! This was one outcome that has surprised us: exposing students to quality methods teaching makes them want even more of it
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Replying to @dalejbarr @sTeamTraen and
Not surprising at all. These things are something you learn to love. I've mentioned all these effects in this thread. Undergrads are constantly undervalued, but the kids are alright.
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And boring!
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