On other hand, if there was more coding built in to course, universities would likely take this into account for admissions, and if women less likely to take STEM at A-level, this could actually make it worse. Don’t think its reasonable to assume no bad consequences
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I've heard others say that skeptics of teaching R just need to see Glasgow UG students at posters to be convinced that it is possible.
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I’m the student who led the petition for an advanced stats class that
@dalejbarr mentioned. I have no experience in shaping academic curriculums (unlike the rest of the people in this thread) but for me the idea that psych undergrads can’t learn programming is not true -
I started doing GTA work this year. They are doing it, and some doing it *exceptionally* well. The current 2nd year curriculum has aspects which are equivalent in difficulty of what we covered in 3rd/4th and MSc.
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I wholeheartedly believe that every student that walks in our doors has that same capability. I will give them that same support and encouragement because that's the kind of teacher I want to be. I will never tell them that they can't. They deserve better.
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So glad you’re weighting in because I also find this idea that coding is reserved for the elite of the brightest students so peculiar. I wonder where this misconception comes from. Programming is challenging but not more than any other non-stats related course that I’ve taken
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Sexism. The answer is sexism. Most undergraduates are women and "women can't code". Male geek trope seems to be internalised by the people who say these things. I'm writing up something on it now.(Feedback appreciated but I think it's easier to wait till I publish it on my blog.)
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Completely right
@o_guest we need not to be afraid of having a challenging curriculum students rise to it and end up with more deeply embedded and transferable skillsThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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I used to incline towards pessimism, in that people who are put off by "(the idea of doing)" stats may also not like "(ditto) coding", but if those are correlated .9 then maybe there's no extra penalty for adding coding.
