And actually, this likely to be particularly bad for working class students.
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Across Psychology? SPSS is still hugely popular in practice.
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By people who publish papers?
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I have to teach it.
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Yeah, that's really upsetting.
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The way teaching works here, although I coordinate two stats modules, major changes to the curriculum have to be approved, and they have knock-on effects on other modules. I was trying to introduce some simple coding at UG, but that was nixed. >
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> My PG intro stats module is only ten contact hours for *all* of intro stats. I introduce a little R (to introduce them to RDI plots, which SPSS just can't do) but there is just no time to teach coding, and no hope of expanding stats.
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I don't think you need to teach coding - just scripting. Generally people find out they are coding by accident if they keep using R. You can do this in SPSS (but almost no-one does, and it is harder) using syntax.
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For stats scripting is a good base, but not for other things: complex survey flows (need to understand loops, if-then-else logic, and variables) or experiments involving, e.g., display of stimuli on the screen. Coding is a core skill in psych but we teach *none*, and no plans to.
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I used to incline towards pessimism, in that people who are put off by "(the idea of doing)" stats may also not like "(ditto) coding", but if those are correlated .9 then maybe there's no extra penalty for adding coding.
