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    1. Richard D. Morey‏ @richarddmorey 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @talyarkoni @o_guest @djnavarro

      I have talked to many students who, after having to learn more “techie” skills for a project, realised they *enjoyed* it and they needn’t have been anxious. We do our students a major disservice by indulging a bad cultural bias that they have internalised!

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    2. Tal Yarkoni‏ @talyarkoni 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @richarddmorey @o_guest @djnavarro

      I agree with this, but it isn't true if everyone, and it doesn't change the fact that a lot of students would preemptively opt out of the major if you added formal requirements

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    3. Tal Yarkoni‏ @talyarkoni 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @talyarkoni @richarddmorey and

      I'm on the same page as you in that I think we should insist on these requirements anyway, but I don't think we should deny that there would be a nontrivial impact on enrollment at most schools

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    4. Richard D. Morey‏ @richarddmorey 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @talyarkoni @o_guest @djnavarro

      This is true more in the USA, where you can simply switch majors by changing the mix of classes you take, than the UK. I see no evidence that before they enroll, students have more than a vague idea what psych is about.

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    5. Richard D. Morey‏ @richarddmorey 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @richarddmorey @talyarkoni and

      So we get to shape their ideas about psych. In the UK you are in a set three year program and you don’t just switch.

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    6. Richard D. Morey‏ @richarddmorey 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @richarddmorey @talyarkoni and

      I see no reason why in the UK - the way the system works - we’d see a drop in enrolments.

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @richarddmorey @talyarkoni @djnavarro

      Exactly. This is why I had no idea what Tal was even on about until I realised it was a USA vs UK thing and questioned him. 😂

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    8. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @richarddmorey and

      But surely the knowledge would trick down. Noone entering a UK university is unaware that physics has nontrivial quantitative skill requirements.

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    9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @bradpwyble @richarddmorey and

      I have never met a UK psych undergrad who knew there was stats and they tend to think it's a huge shocking thing and initially (at least) dislike it and resent it.

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    10. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @richarddmorey and

      Fair, but even though their precise knowledge is inaccurate they do have a correct understanding that the quant skill requirements in psych are << those in physics, maths.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @bradpwyble @richarddmorey and

      My point was in the UK they have already done teaching coding to all years of undergrad — just like they go from t-test to linear regression and more over the 3 years in stats.

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        1. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @bradpwyble and

          Basically my point boils down to: in the UK the tide has turned and we teach undergrads to code "against their will" just like we teach them research methods/stats "against their will". 🤣

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