The argument seems to be, I'm paraphrasing, "psych people can't deal with complex stuff" which really boils down to "I can't teach them complex stuff". Taken at face value the argument is psych researchers are not clever — reality of course is not aligned really with that view.
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Replying to @o_guest @djnavarro
I should underline that those proposing "psych people just can't code/whatever" are the most opportunistic in their negative take on students & whoever else in the field. They would never accept the same about themselves if stated bluntly: "you couldn't learn to code/do stats".
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Replying to @o_guest @djnavarro
It has been suggested to me - in the context of curriculum refresh - that psych undergraduate students just don't want to learn coding or stats. I don't think it's an accident that the people saying these things are older men, and the students are mostly women.
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I mean, this is clearly true of *a lot* of psych undergrads (men and women both), and I see no reason to deny it. but the fact that many students don't want to learn statistics is not a reason not to include statistics in the curriculum—and the same should be true for coding.
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I have talked to many students who, after having to learn more “techie” skills for a project, realised they *enjoyed* it and they needn’t have been anxious. We do our students a major disservice by indulging a bad cultural bias that they have internalised!
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Replying to @richarddmorey @talyarkoni and
The idea that I broached was that we take advantage of the currently untapped potential in our students, but such suggestions will not be entertained in an environment where management is afraid of losing student cash and NSS ratings.
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I agree. I'm just pointing out that the people with that fear are not wrong--they *would* lose resources. so our argument needs to focus on why that's an acceptable price to pay
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Replying to @talyarkoni @richarddmorey and
Again, I don't see that as necessary. It should be possible to carve out a research-track within the psych major that has a different set of requirements. There's no need to force all of the students to learn coding if our goal is to increase quant skills in our grads.
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Replying to @bradpwyble @talyarkoni and
If the goal is to teach everyone to code (e.g. those going into social work, clinical practice) I can see the possible value but it should be explicit what the benefits are.
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Your system is very different though. So this is something that would not apply to the UK either way.
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Replying to @o_guest @talyarkoni and
I can see that. I'm only able to speak to the US side
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