The argument seems to be, I'm paraphrasing, "psych people can't deal with complex stuff" which really boils down to "I can't teach them complex stuff". Taken at face value the argument is psych researchers are not clever — reality of course is not aligned really with that view.
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I should underline that those proposing "psych people just can't code/whatever" are the most opportunistic in their negative take on students & whoever else in the field. They would never accept the same about themselves if stated bluntly: "you couldn't learn to code/do stats".
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Replying to @o_guest @djnavarro
It has been suggested to me - in the context of curriculum refresh - that psych undergraduate students just don't want to learn coding or stats. I don't think it's an accident that the people saying these things are older men, and the students are mostly women.
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I mean, this is clearly true of *a lot* of psych undergrads (men and women both), and I see no reason to deny it. but the fact that many students don't want to learn statistics is not a reason not to include statistics in the curriculum—and the same should be true for coding.
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I have talked to many students who, after having to learn more “techie” skills for a project, realised they *enjoyed* it and they needn’t have been anxious. We do our students a major disservice by indulging a bad cultural bias that they have internalised!
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I agree with this, but it isn't true if everyone, and it doesn't change the fact that a lot of students would preemptively opt out of the major if you added formal requirements
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In the UK they have no choice, they have to do stats every year. Is the North American system not like that?
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it is at most places (but just once, not every year). at some, you can opt out by, e.g., doing a BA instead of a BSc. and many do.
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OK, I did not know that about your system. It's not true here. I see where you are coming from now. Here it can easily be slotted in, some basic R instead of SPSS and some Python instead of ePrime. Many unis now do this, including UCL.
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