I should underline that those proposing "psych people just can't code/whatever" are the most opportunistic in their negative take on students & whoever else in the field. They would never accept the same about themselves if stated bluntly: "you couldn't learn to code/do stats".
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It has been suggested to me - in the context of curriculum refresh - that psych undergraduate students just don't want to learn coding or stats. I don't think it's an accident that the people saying these things are older men, and the students are mostly women.
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I mean, this is clearly true of *a lot* of psych undergrads (men and women both), and I see no reason to deny it. but the fact that many students don't want to learn statistics is not a reason not to include statistics in the curriculum—and the same should be true for coding.
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Agreed, but I am not sure that combining these in a single course is wise, and I worry about students without coding experience feeling that they start with a handicap (because they do). In their first stats course, I like students to grasp the concepts, not "tapply".
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You might want to see what others do further down the thread:https://twitter.com/dalejbarr/status/1066431058764288000 …
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The thing is all students have a "handicap" in some way or another. I am better than people who just speak Engish at using/naming Greek letters (because I am a native Greek speaking) or knowing prima facie what "prosopagnosia" means etc.
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That doesn't mean we don't teach students. As I said elsewhere:https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/1066649799875796992 …
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Those undergrads knew no coding (only two had coded before and not in Python). By the end, they knew how to do the tasks required for the module. And they all good really good grades.
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I got a talkin' to from the faculty supervisor for teaching intro psych stats in R with
@djnavarro's excellent/free book, quote "You shouldn't need a calculator to do simple arithmetic and you can't rely on R for your statistics course." result: 15 UGs can do stats in R nowThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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