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    1. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 21 Nov 2018
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      You disagree with what?

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    2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Nov 2018
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      That I/we attacked Ben?

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    3. Matthew Hankins‏ @mc_hankins 21 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @twitemp1 @o_guest and

      I've been trying to follow this argument but I'm not sure I have all the pieces of the jigsaw. Is someone arguing that all papers need to pre-register everything?

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    4. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble 21 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @mc_hankins @twitemp1 and

      Yes in various combinations. Sometimes it is explicit, more often it is implied by a pattern of assertions.

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Nov 2018
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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Kymberly Louise

      One of many examples is:https://twitter.com/kymberlylouise_/status/1065317963945848832?s=19 …

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

      Kymberly Louise @kymberlylouise_
      Replying to @bradpwyble @zerdeve and 6 others
      OK, I'll out myself. I've meant that when I've said that. I'm a grad student in social psych so I think pre reg is the bees knees. Can someone ELI5 why/when pre reg is not useful, when it does allow for exploratory research?
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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Nov 2018
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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Guillaume Rousselet

      Another is:https://twitter.com/robustgar/status/1031115054572285952 …

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

      Guillaume Rousselet @robustgar
      Replying to @atypical_me @rikhens @mbeisen
      Sure, they are potential exceptions. If it were up to me, any paper without pre-registration, data and code would be branded "exploratory opinion piece", no exception.
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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @bradpwyble and

      It boils down to a deep misunderstanding of how to/we do modelling.

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    8. Matthew Hankins‏ @mc_hankins 21 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @bradpwyble and

      Thanks for the links. I'd go further: a deep misunderstanding of how science is done. What a load of parochial, self-serving nonsense.

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    9. Matthew Hankins‏ @mc_hankins 23 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @mc_hankins @o_guest and

      So, anyway: does anyone know of anything approaching a comprehensive review of (a) what problems we're trying to solve (in this respect) and (b) what solutions have been proposed? Rather than piecemeal, domain-specific stuff?

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 23 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @mc_hankins @bradpwyble and

      We = modellers?

      4:08 AM - 23 Nov 2018
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        2. Matthew Hankins‏ @mc_hankins 23 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @bradpwyble and

          I was thinking broader, but more along exploratory lines than confirmatory

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        3. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble 23 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @mc_hankins @o_guest and

          There hasn't been much in the way of improving exploratory work apart from saying that we should stop framing it as confirmatory in papers, which i agree with. But the challenge is then to get journals to treat such work seriously because we're in a heavily confirmatory culture.

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        4. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble 23 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @bradpwyble @mc_hankins and

          So with these changes, exploratory work pays the steepest price. We need journals to seriously commit to papers that say: here's this thing i found, it replicates but I have no idea what it means. Science used to work that way.

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        5. Matthew Hankins‏ @mc_hankins 23 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @bradpwyble @o_guest and

          Is the journal problem parochial as well? Or have things already moved too far in that direction? I'm really just interested to learn what problems this approach is trying to solve (is it just exploratory work being falsely reported as confirmatory?)

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        6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 23 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @mc_hankins @bradpwyble and

          I'm actually so in disagreement, deep deep disagreement with even the language used to frame this debate, that I can't even engage. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm being serious. Like the rhetorical framing is so off from my perspective, it would take an essay to unpack...

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        7. Matthew Hankins‏ @mc_hankins 23 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @bradpwyble and

          Sorry, I was conscious of this even as I was typing 'exploratory', 'confirmatory' etc. - it's buying into an already-skewed narrative.

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        8. Matthew Hankins‏ @mc_hankins 23 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @mc_hankins @o_guest and

          But what problem is this narrative constructed to solve? I mean for a clinical trial you have protocol, CRF, SAP, audit trial etc. and it's clear what problems that solves and why it's appropriate

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        9. Matthew Hankins‏ @mc_hankins 23 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @mc_hankins @o_guest and

          But how are the problems for other analysis settings characterised, and what has been proposed to solve them? So social psychology has set about cleaning house, but that's a very specific set of conditions

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