Lol! I can imagine that
Did not know if I should tag you. Thanks for joining 
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Replying to @IrisVanRooij @TrishaVZ and
Oh, hey, Berna (
@zerdeve in a another side thread) and Trish have joined? Light the fires, coven! We can finally commence with the modelling witchcraft!
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Replying to @o_guest @IrisVanRooij and
Although I agree with most of the points made, referring to the degree of poor consideration we have for other fields is a little an ad hominem tu quoque argument which not only deviates the attention from more pressing matters but may result in deepening the disagreement.
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Déjà vu. We can do better, I think.
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Replying to @twitemp1 @IrisVanRooij and
I don't tell them what to do with their subfield.
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And I listen to them when they say "this is what works for us". So worst case I ignore them, best case I respect them. No case do I tell them what to do about their subfield. I think this is true for all modellers I have heard so far speaking up.
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I'll confess that I have criticized research into gender from evolutionary perspective (even in discussion with Ben) based on conceptual grounds. But agree with Esther's point in parallel thread that in present context there are more urgent matters. I believe that we need to seek
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Replying to @IrisVanRooij @o_guest and
common ground to achieve positive change in the dialogue. I respect if not everyone wants to always (or at all) invest time in that, and then just respecting what the other does is fine. Absolutely.
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Replying to @IrisVanRooij @twitemp1 and
Sorry, you are correct. I meant to add "in this context" when I said: "I think this is true for all modellers I have heard so far speaking up." But yes, in general, the fact that we might dislike certain fields means nothing to this disagreement.
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Replying to @o_guest @IrisVanRooij and
Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ
There is a gulf of difference between that kind of disagreement and this one. I tried to touch on that throughout this thread but also specifically here:https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/1065258547699695618 …
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These people are not engaging with modelling at all. When Iris disagrees about evo psych, for example, she does so via engaging.
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As I said to Ben 2 days ago, in order to disagree ideally one should understand one another's POV (to some non-trivial extent). Otherwise it is more miscommunication than disagreement.
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Replying to @IrisVanRooij @o_guest and
I am afraid Ben blocked me for this remark. I am very sorry. I did not mean it to offend.
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