From there, they then take an additional police style approach. Resulting in telling people who do science a very different way to essentially stop.
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And I listen to them when they say "this is what works for us". So worst case I ignore them, best case I respect them. No case do I tell them what to do about their subfield. I think this is true for all modellers I have heard so far speaking up.
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I'll confess that I have criticized research into gender from evolutionary perspective (even in discussion with Ben) based on conceptual grounds. But agree with Esther's point in parallel thread that in present context there are more urgent matters. I believe that we need to seek
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common ground to achieve positive change in the dialogue. I respect if not everyone wants to always (or at all) invest time in that, and then just respecting what the other does is fine. Absolutely.
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Sorry, you are correct. I meant to add "in this context" when I said: "I think this is true for all modellers I have heard so far speaking up." But yes, in general, the fact that we might dislike certain fields means nothing to this disagreement.
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There is a gulf of difference between that kind of disagreement and this one. I tried to touch on that throughout this thread but also specifically here:https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/1065258547699695618 …
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These people are not engaging with modelling at all. When Iris disagrees about evo psych, for example, she does so via engaging.
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As I said to Ben 2 days ago, in order to disagree ideally one should understand one another's POV (to some non-trivial extent). Otherwise it is more miscommunication than disagreement.
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I am afraid Ben blocked me for this remark. I am very sorry. I did not mean it to offend.
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Fair, but we don't need to attack it, not in this context at least. Inadequacy of pre-registration, autocratic approach, intimidation and coercive ways, control of the field... these are more urgent matters imo
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"Attack" is again very polemic-sounding.
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You know what I mean, (criticize or oppose fiercely and publicly) which I find counterproductive. Anyway, I give up, I know where this goes, have seen it before.
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