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It seems to me that some people have taken control of a movement that in principle could have been good for science, twisting it to their liking without giving to it much thought (best case scenario) and/or with an specific power agenda. >>
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The only way I can think of to counteract their lobbying is to build another position of strength, which will most probably lead to a "civil war". Alternatively, we can try to ignore it and hope that eventually ppl understand that each branch or research has its own idiosyncrasy.
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Honestly? No idea.
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Find all these words "camps" (not you others) "civil war" etc., off-putting. I think the rhetoric is nasty on this level too, but I do not blame people for using war-related terminology. I just think it's not actually useful and might even make it less likely to reach a solution.
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I'm sorry for being gone through this, but you did a better job of handling that than I would have. I've debated with Ben before and I absolutely get the sense that he would prefer to see all work as pre-registration even though I can't quote the tweet. And I predicted a muting.
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I think it's fair to say that when someone says e.g. "Pre-reg doesn't prevent exploration" they are essentially supporting universal pre-reg (otherwise why say it?). And yet there is no specific tweet one can point to.
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OK, I'll out myself. I've meant that when I've said that. I'm a grad student in social psych so I think pre reg is the bees knees. Can someone ELI5 why/when pre reg is not useful, when it does allow for exploratory research?
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I would recommend that you go thru
@djnavarro’s and@IrisVanRooij’s recent threads, and also browse thru@o_guest’s and@JCSkewesDK’s TL’s. Many answers to your q have already been provided. You won’t find answers wrt social psych but def on many types of exploratory research. - 9 more replies
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You may be right but that would be a terrible outcome IMO. I think modellers are amazingly more productive when we work arm-in-arm with empiricists. Otherwise it is hard to generate the data that we need.
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They want to do open data. I'll just continue to be parasite.
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