Good thoughts Micah. I think another crucial issue is to weigh the costs and benefits of exhaustive documentation. Against the obvious benefits of documenting the entire model development process one should weigh the costs of writing, curating and reading those documents. >
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> At some point along the continuum the benefits of documentation would start to pale against the cost of managing and reading all of that information. As scientists we're all making choices about which of our nonviable ideas are worth discussion and this is healthy for the field
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The rhetoric of the "I think the hardline 'full blown registered reports or bust' stance" people seems to have shifted now to "but I never said that". Interesting switch, I wonder if that means a deeper understanding or just a reflex?
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I've seen this transition happening back and forth since the beginning so I don't think much has changed.
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What do you mean "transition happening back and forth"? Having trouble parsing, sorry.
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I mean language switching between, Reg always <-> Reg sometimes
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Ah, right... right. Now that you mention it the rhetorical gaslighting of "I never said that" was not a first. Correct. Flip-flopping, i.e., lying, about the discussion so far really obfuscates the exchange of ideas if not completely killing the exchange.
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Replying to @o_guest @bradpwyble and
This is not unheard of though. I have seen a few U-turns where the one side just "steals" the arguments of the other and never admits to changing positions. What I haven't seem before this is the constant flipping.
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Replying to @o_guest @bradpwyble and
Do you have any further thoughts on this? I'd love to hear as you are correctly noticing certain people's tactics IMHO.
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I think it's a common rhetorical technique when engaging within/between belief groups. I catch myself doing it with gun control (I mask my anti-gun stance with less extreme versions).
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I love guns. But yeah, Americans should not have them. In Cyprus each house has an AK from the government and we don't shoot each other.
It's true.
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