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    1. Hans Rocha IJzerman‏ @hansijzerman 18 Nov 2018
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      Yes, I have seen the editorial. It's an interesting start, but can go much further.

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    2. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 18 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @hansijzerman @richarddmorey and

      Decent numbers of submissions. Quality hit and miss. Just accepted our first one.

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    3. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 18 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @chrisdc77 @hansijzerman and

      Worth adding: much less interest than we had for RRs at same time after launch. Predictably, presenting exploratory research as exploratory seems to be less attractive to researchers than presenting it as pseudo confirmatory razzle dazzle in a regular article.

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    4. Hans Rocha IJzerman‏ @hansijzerman 18 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @chrisdc77 @richarddmorey and

      what we will likely try first is limit to a couple different types of exploratory research to generate interest (e.g., split-half validation, machine learning) and build from there.

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    5. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 18 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @hansijzerman @chrisdc77 and

      Is there a way to pro-actively alert people to the highly limited scope of such initiatives. It would save the rest of us -- not covered by them -- the time & energy to explain again and again that our work is not pseudoscience because it does not fit some new OS template?

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    6. Hans Rocha IJzerman‏ @hansijzerman 18 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @chrisdc77 and

      I think I at least try to point out limitations/importance of humility time and again.

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    7. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 18 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @hansijzerman @chrisdc77 and

      I’m sure you personally do. But to have impact on OS culture perhaps it would be good if OS practices come with explicit disclaimers on their scope. Perhaps open scientists can openly take a stand that it’s actually poor practice to uphold templates as arbiters on “good” science.

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    8. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 18 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @hansijzerman and

      An aside: I’m curious Chris, do you by any chance have me muted?

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    9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @hansijzerman and

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ

      Hmm. I was literally just saying how comms have broken down between us, Iris. Painful, if true.https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/1064528798257958917 …

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guest
      Replying to @Ben_C_J @lakens and 3 others
      TBH I'm puzzled by a lot of your threads. And I think it's correct that comms between us (communities of researches within psych/neuro) is indeed broken/breaking down.
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    10. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @hansijzerman and

      Also OS advocates blocking you and @zerdeve does not help them in getting the full picture. Way to insulate to critical views 🤷‍♀️

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @hansijzerman and

      TBH I don't care any more. It's getting to the point where they expect us all to understand their jargon without explanation really (and we often do) but they aren't even bothered to understand modelling. It's amusing because all these years I thought there was mutual respect. 🤣

      7:38 AM - 19 Nov 2018
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @IrisVanRooij and

          They can mute and block us all. They are the ones missing out either way because they don't understand how we do science.

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        3. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @IrisVanRooij and

          Unfortunately they're largely dominating the narrative (at least in the Twitter bubble). I am used to modelling lurking in the shadows, respected, but not widely acknowledged. That said, the highest levels of neuroscience typically focus on modelling (e.g. FIL, Gatbsy)

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @bradpwyble @IrisVanRooij and

          The field is obviously rupturing then.

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @bradpwyble and

          To be clear, "don't care" = don't care if they think I'm arguing in bad faith, etc. I do care VERY MUCH about the science.

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        6. Berna D.‏ @zerdeve 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @bradpwyble and

          I think some don’t follow how often we get “ofc you must prereg” or “prereg is for all exploratory research” comments, whenever we talk abt modeling work that doesn’t fit their mold. Insisting that it’s us who misunderstand the intentions of prereg folks is kinda gaslighting.

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        7. Berna D.‏ @zerdeve 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @zerdeve @o_guest and

          Berna D. Retweeted

          There are prob misunderstandings and overgeneralizations on all sides. I’m glad at least some understanding has been reached among some folks even though the bad faith arguments still exist. e.g., what Danielle discusses here: https://twitter.com/djnavarro/status/1064481703974957057?s=21 …

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        8. Melissa Kline‏ @melissaekline 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @zerdeve @o_guest and

          Melissa Kline Retweeted Melissa Kline

          Reposting an invitation to people in this (sprawling) conversation!https://twitter.com/melissaekline/status/1064555044966678529 …

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          Melissa Kline @melissaekline
          Replying to @IrisVanRooij @hansijzerman and 3 others
          (Sorry for anyone who sees this 2x, attempting to hit the meta-thread tangle) Hi, I'd like to personally invite everyone in this thread to consider attending SIPS in Rotterdam in July! It would be really valuable to have sessions on communication failure, scope-limitations, etc.
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