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    1. Daniël Lakens‏Verified account @lakens 19 Nov 2018
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      People might have been used to following a hypothesis testing script in their papers, and now need to learn how to write an exploratory paper. Journals will need to learn how to evaluate these papers. We can learn from papers in the 50's which were often much more exploratory.

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    2. Tjeerd Boonstra‏ @TjeerdWBoonstra 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @lakens

      Same for reviewers and editors. Have many times seen reviewers asking to add hypothesis to paper

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    3. Daniël Lakens‏Verified account @lakens 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @TjeerdWBoonstra

      The misunderstandings are striking. As are the responses against very balanced recommendations to use pre-registration. Show me anyone who says all published articles should be pre-registered. No one ever has, yet this is now suggested. Disappointing.

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    4. Tjeerd Boonstra‏ @TjeerdWBoonstra 19 Nov 2018
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      To me these are all new tools/possibilities that recently became available to strengthen your research. Time to educate yourself and decide which tools you want to use

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    5. Anne Scheel‏ @annemscheel 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @TjeerdWBoonstra @lakens

      In his 1998 HARKing paper, Kerr cites some numbers on this from an empirical study he ran but that I think never got published (maybe the paper didn't have enough hypotheses?)pic.twitter.com/fyDOvs9YzE

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Lisa DeBruine  🏳️‍🌈

      Hmmm. I'm not sure that's true, @lakens... For example, how do you interpret this tweet: https://twitter.com/robustgar/status/1043453476397834241?s=19 …? Or this one: https://twitter.com/lisadebruine/status/1043477114903773184?s=19 …?

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

      Lisa DeBruine  🏳️‍🌈 @LisaDeBruine
      Replying to @robustgar
      So how can we actually make this happen? Get a critical mass of researchers to commit to only publishing RRs in journals and preprinting everything else? Or do unis/REF/funders need to change their evaluation criteria first?
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    7. Daniël Lakens‏Verified account @lakens 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @annemscheel @TjeerdWBoonstra

      Thanks for illustrating the misunderstanding people have voiced! This is not even remotely an argument to pre-register everything. You can submit a RR saying you will only do exploratory analyses (there is even an explicit exploratory RR @chrisdc77). RR's prevent publication bias

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @lakens @annemscheel and

      So more of a communications issue in your opinion then, I see. I guess that's actually really important because not even a disagreement can really be reached without communication and understanding. FWIW some of those in that thread have since decided to dial back their rhetoric.

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    9. Ben Jones‏ @Ben_C_J 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @lakens and

      That’s a really puzzling thread to bring up in this discussion and I agree doing so really highlights the core misunderstanding that I have seen at the heart of the discussions over the last few days.

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    10. Ben Jones‏ @Ben_C_J 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @Ben_C_J @o_guest and

      First, the tweet explicitly says that non preregistered work should be published. Second, and as @Lakens notes, it is absolutely not the case that the RR format is only for confirmatory research.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @Ben_C_J @lakens and

      TBH I'm puzzled by a lot of your threads. And I think it's correct that comms between us (communities of researches within psych/neuro) is indeed broken/breaking down.

      6:40 AM - 19 Nov 2018
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        2. Ben Jones‏ @Ben_C_J 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @lakens and

          To be blunt, they’d make sense to you if you’d stop thinking that these suggestions are an attempt to impose a confirmatory framework on everyone. It’s been explained repeatedly that they aren’t, so it’s getting harder and harder to believe your claim to be arguing in good faith.

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @Ben_C_J @lakens and

          Interesting perspective. Why and how do you think it would serve me to argue in bad faith?

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        4. Hans Rocha IJzerman‏ @hansijzerman 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @Ben_C_J and

          I don't think the disagreement is really necessary here. Something went wrong somewhere in the communication, and I think both of you agree on most issues.

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