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    1. Daniël Lakens‏Verified account @lakens 19 Nov 2018
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      Pre-registration formalizes Type 1 error rate control in hypothesis tests. That is all. With increasing adoption, one consequence is we will see an increase in people who realize they were not testing a hypothesis at all. That is progress.

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    2. Daniël Lakens‏Verified account @lakens 19 Nov 2018
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      People might have been used to following a hypothesis testing script in their papers, and now need to learn how to write an exploratory paper. Journals will need to learn how to evaluate these papers. We can learn from papers in the 50's which were often much more exploratory.

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    3. Tjeerd Boonstra‏ @TjeerdWBoonstra 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @lakens

      Same for reviewers and editors. Have many times seen reviewers asking to add hypothesis to paper

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    4. Daniël Lakens‏Verified account @lakens 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @TjeerdWBoonstra

      The misunderstandings are striking. As are the responses against very balanced recommendations to use pre-registration. Show me anyone who says all published articles should be pre-registered. No one ever has, yet this is now suggested. Disappointing.

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    5. Tjeerd Boonstra‏ @TjeerdWBoonstra 19 Nov 2018
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      To me these are all new tools/possibilities that recently became available to strengthen your research. Time to educate yourself and decide which tools you want to use

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    6. Anne Scheel‏ @annemscheel 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @TjeerdWBoonstra @lakens

      In his 1998 HARKing paper, Kerr cites some numbers on this from an empirical study he ran but that I think never got published (maybe the paper didn't have enough hypotheses?)pic.twitter.com/fyDOvs9YzE

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @annemscheel @TjeerdWBoonstra @lakens

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Lisa DeBruine  🏳️‍🌈

      Hmmm. I'm not sure that's true, @lakens... For example, how do you interpret this tweet: https://twitter.com/robustgar/status/1043453476397834241?s=19 …? Or this one: https://twitter.com/lisadebruine/status/1043477114903773184?s=19 …?

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      Lisa DeBruine  🏳️‍🌈 @LisaDeBruine
      Replying to @robustgar
      So how can we actually make this happen? Get a critical mass of researchers to commit to only publishing RRs in journals and preprinting everything else? Or do unis/REF/funders need to change their evaluation criteria first?
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    8. Lisa DeBruine  🏳️‍🌈‏ @LisaDeBruine 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @annemscheel and

      Perhaps you’ve misunderstood my opinion on journals. I don’t think pre-publication peer review by journals is necessary or even useful for much research except RRs. All the other (very valuable) research is better served by post-preprint peer review.

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    9. Lisa DeBruine  🏳️‍🌈‏ @LisaDeBruine 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @LisaDeBruine @o_guest and

      But this will require a shift away from using publication and JIF as shorthand ways to evaluate the quality or research. And ways to ensure that post-pub peer review is fairer than the current system (transparency will help, but not eliminate bias).

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    10. Lisa DeBruine  🏳️‍🌈‏ @LisaDeBruine 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @LisaDeBruine @o_guest and

      I think it’s hard for most people to even imagine a world where publication in a traditional journal isn’t necessary for good science, but I’m keen to explore if that can happen.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @LisaDeBruine @annemscheel and

      Ah, thanks for clarifying. I guess "most people" is relative. When I was on a panel at ICML they thought journals were a great idea. I did correct them this "grass is greener on the other side" mode of seeing neuro/psych.

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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @LisaDeBruine and

          So yeah, for a "no journals" science, see compsci, I guess? They haven't had journals since ever. They just do preprints and proceedings. Is that useful for you?

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        3. Lisa DeBruine  🏳️‍🌈‏ @LisaDeBruine 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @annemscheel and

          Compsci is a great example. The parts of psychology that are closer to compsci (e.g., that are testing computation models or using a data-driven approach) aren't well-served by either RRs or the journal-based publication model in general.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @LisaDeBruine @annemscheel and

          Yes, obviously. Something I've been saying on Twitter for years.

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @LisaDeBruine and

          The tweet of yours I linked to comes off as saying that publications should all be RRs? But like I said above and you just also repeated, you have changed your perspective since you posted that.

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        6. Lisa DeBruine  🏳️‍🌈‏ @LisaDeBruine 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @annemscheel and

          It's less that I've changed my perspective and more that I'm aware others don't find it obvious that the RR model mostly applies to research in a hypothesis-testing framework so I'm trying to be clearer.

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        7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @LisaDeBruine @annemscheel and

          Right. A shift in rhetoric. Like I said.

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        8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @LisaDeBruine and

          Either way you and others in this thread have slowly but surely lost loads of math psych people and/or modelers. I'm interested to see how this will continue as it's caused IMHO quite a deep rift. I was literally just saying the other day that the field seems to be splitting.

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        9. Daniël Lakens‏Verified account @lakens 19 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @LisaDeBruine and

          I just hired a modeller as a post-doc for the next 4 years.

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