Sadly, this seems to be emprically true. Is Open See really, inevitably, hostile to agreeable people...https://twitter.com/talyarkoni/status/1061004494937436160 …
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This why "nice" and even "kind" are really bad words. Weasel words. Everybody superficially agrees we should be nice and kind and yet they are useless concepts without further strict definition.
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I read ‘kind’ as very different from ‘nice’.
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Eg speaking painful truth can be a kind thing to do, even if it is not being nice. Nice had much less sincere connotation for me. Same with ‘polite’, or ‘civil’.
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As for Dennett’s piece, I think indeed ‘kindness’ may be the wrong word there. Better ‘charity’ in argumentation. Never experienced Dennet’s arguments as especially kind.
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But yes agreed
@o_guest these words (including kindness) can be twisted to actually hide ill-intent and even abuse. -
But to clarify: I do still agree with the OP. The path on which this thread developed could in turn be twisted to be against Tom’s stance. I think that would be unfortunate.
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