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    1. Gunnar Blohm‏ @GunnarBlohm 25 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @andpru @neurograce and

      This is a different point! Super important and very straight forward. No questions here. But that's not what I'm talking about

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    2. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing 25 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @andpru @GunnarBlohm and

      Right. Also, consider: what does prereg accomplish for experiments? It prevents ppl from hiding negative results. But, what are negative results in a model? What do we gain from knowing that it never worked other than the fact that the authors' math was wrong?

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    3. Gunnar Blohm‏ @GunnarBlohm 25 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @tyrell_turing @andpru and

      Say you hypothesized that servo control can explain the minimum intervention principle. You implement that hypothesis and find no. So you turn to optimal control and it works. Wouldn't it be good to know about the initial null result?

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    4. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing 25 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @GunnarBlohm @andpru and

      So, I guess my question would be: do you have mathematical analyses to show that servo control can explain it? If so, then the fact that you struggled with your simulations tells us either (a) the math was wrong (in which case, not publishing is okay) or (2) your coding is weak.

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    5. BM 't Hart‏ @BMtHart 26 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @tyrell_turing @GunnarBlohm and

      Or (III) many people have said servo control should be a simple explanation and in a first, small dataset it did work (and there are no errors), but with further evidence you can save others from wasting time?

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    6. Gunnar Blohm‏ @GunnarBlohm 26 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @BMtHart @tyrell_turing and

      Exactly. Nothing is wrong with the Math or the simulations. It's just that your original hypothesis that human movement control can be captures by servo control is wrong.

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    7. Gunnar Blohm‏ @GunnarBlohm 26 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @GunnarBlohm @BMtHart and

      I'd like to thank everyone for this constructive discussion! Really clarified things for me. Will include some of this in our soon-to-be-posted paper on how to model

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    8. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing 26 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @GunnarBlohm @BMtHart and

      Ditto, thanks for a fun/enlightening conversation!

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 26 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @tyrell_turing @GunnarBlohm and

      Oh, yeah, def. Sorry for being so absent (still coding a lot as I need to finish something off). Very excited to see the paper!

      6:19 AM - 26 Oct 2018
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        2. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble 26 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @tyrell_turing and

          Same! It's clarified for me (again) the point that there are many different kinds of modelling, and nothing is one size-fits-all.

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        3. Ven Popov‏ @venpopov 26 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @bradpwyble @o_guest and

          That's what I was thinking while reading everyone's response in this thread - so much of the initial disagreement was likely due to the fact that people here work with very different kinds of models. It definitely was a very interesting discussion.

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