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    1. Darren L Dahly‏ @statsepi 21 Oct 2018
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      I am seeing a split - there are people using "bro" to highlight a possible lack of concern for inclusivity; and there are people using "bro" to highlight what they perceive as inappropriate methods/tone/media of critique....

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    2. Richard D. Morey‏ @richarddmorey 21 Oct 2018
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      I don't see these as separate things; there are...let's call them "aggressive communication patterns"...that tend to be used by men. Their source is power and entitlement. A lack of diversity means that such communication patterns are normalised, though they exhaust others.

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    3. Richard D. Morey‏ @richarddmorey 21 Oct 2018
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      I grew up in online discussions (BBSs, USENET, IRC, web forums) and it took me a long time to see 1) how widespread it is in online culture, 2) how bad it could be, and 3) and that I need to keep it in check myself and listen to what others have to say about it.

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    4. Darren L Dahly‏ @statsepi 21 Oct 2018
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      Darren L Dahly Retweeted Darren L Dahly

      https://twitter.com/statsepi/status/1047134977308147713 …

      Darren L Dahly added,

      Darren L Dahly @statsepi
      In 2002, I once spent 19 hours straight arguing about how many national championships Alabama football didn't have. I learned everything I've ever needed to know about internet discourse that day.
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    5. Darren L Dahly‏ @statsepi 21 Oct 2018
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      Agreed...my default is that if someone has a concern, you listen and take it seriously. People don't just make up stuff (or not enough to over-ride this stance...back to T1 and T2 errors).

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    6. Darren L Dahly‏ @statsepi 21 Oct 2018
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      And I see your point on what I am calling a split perhaps at least partly originating from the same underlying cause - though I would still land on (Support Inclusivity) & (Not Filter Critique).

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Oct 2018
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      I am glad to hear you support inclusivity. That's huge because in the past on this issue I/we had almost no support from men in open science. Even just a few months ago (the most recent time we brought up inclusivity) there was no real support other than from a handful of women.

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Oct 2018
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      Also this idea of a split... I never felt comfortable with the bros. Some of the most bro-y bros have blocked me called me names. It's just we've been quiet(er) and the bros have been vocal.

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    9. Darren L Dahly‏ @statsepi 21 Oct 2018
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      It's nowhere near the same level of offense as being personally attacked, but I have been blocked by at least one person that I think found me too Bro-y. Tricky.

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    10. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Oct 2018
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      OK, but have you seen the dogpiles and sealioning I've had to endure because I mention that I think open science should strive for inclusivity?

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Oct 2018
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      And not just me... so many other women that I will not tag for obvious reasons. I can genuinely dig up (some of) the times this has happened to me if you want to see. Back in 2017 it was so bad my Twitter was unusable. I considered leaving the site.

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        2. Darren L Dahly‏ @statsepi 21 Oct 2018
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          What you are describing is abusive, which I have never experienced, and I have no reason not to take you at your word about it.

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @statsepi @richarddmorey

          Thank you. I was genuinely offering though because you seeing it might help you understand and propose solutions etc.

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