SIPS is not the same as #openscience. I now see where the confusion stems from...
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Replying to @o_guest @Sam_D_Parsons and
So I think Sam is equating the two here as people keep doing that – see the outrage at that (bad) chronicle article, or one of the replies to the original tweet of this thread. If people don’t see them as the same(ish), they should just join SIPS as a movement and leave OS be
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Replying to @cruwelli @Sam_D_Parsons and
I like openscience it's a beautiful movement. This is why I want it to be healthy.
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BTW these things always happen. When I wrote this (a pro open science/open source) post, I got push back saying I'm against people coding... Even though I wrote it to help people learn how to code.http://neuroplausible.com/matlab
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People will always find a way to twist stuff one way or another. But in my ten years of doing research (much less than many in this thread) open science has been great to see gain momentum, totally a great thing.
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But it naturally will attract bad actors. And we need to weed them out. That's all. I'm 100% for Open science. I didn't spend my phd (4+ years ago now time flies!) replicating computational models, begging for open source, and better research practises to give up now.
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Replying to @o_guest @Sam_D_Parsons and
Yes, but let’s weed them out individually and directly! That’s harder to do, but looks much more encouraging and welcoming than talking down the whole movement.
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Replying to @cruwelli @Sam_D_Parsons and
Let's just disagree to disagree.
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Replying to @o_guest @Sam_D_Parsons and
But I think we agree! I just don’t think it’s helpful to say that there is a general problem, because then we keep bad actors - which is what we all want to avoid!
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Replying to @cruwelli @Sam_D_Parsons and
I don't believe it's a few rogue bros. I think toxic masculinity and other toxic behaviours that we see like bullying stem from systemic social issues which intersect with science whether open or not and we need to be vigilant.
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And yes, like with open source and tech generally (if you saw that piece) it's possible for open science to end up less inclusive than the field(s) baseline(s).
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