I do think so, but honestly, the implicit identification with a community that includes and tolerates bullies bothers me a lot.
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It seems to be the nature of twitter (and FB), the way it's designed, that inflammatory posts (including bullying) get more attention than other stuff. So we need better social media platforms.
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Uh, we also need to call out the bullying, right? Now it sounds as if we merely need to shift the attention away from it, in the service of OS image we turn a blind eye?
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No, I wasnt' saying that. I do think it should be called out. Just that occasional twitter users get the wrong impression of bullying being more representative, due to the algorithms.
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I think the opposite is the case here. It seems that many users do *not* see the bullying or harassment happening, and individuals suffer. And even in this thread it was questioned that it was really happening.
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Ah ok, interesting point. Still, on average (as reflected in the Chronicle article), seems that both social media and click-driven journalism over-emphasises the bullying, but I could be wrong.
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I think that the problem of online bullying is actually one of the *main* problems in
#openscience. Fear of public shaming prevents people from open discussions of preprints, etc. I have been bullied myself, and observe cases of online bullying of respected academics about weekly -
My concern is bullying punching down. Bullying punching up is more of a gray area as to if it or is not actually bullying. I don't want to muddy the waters with a discussion on the nature of bullying but IMHO it is not the main issue. Lack of inclusivity and diversity are.
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Bros were anti diversity/inclusivity before they moved into online spaces (e.g., Twitter) & they were like this at conferences and within their labs and so on. They hold relative positions of power. So yes, it's bullying but we need to be careful what we describe as bullying.
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