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    1. Sophia Crüwell‏ @cruwelli 20 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @djnavarro @o_guest and

      How is it a community that tolerates online bullying? People are called out for any bad behaviour, and at least one (that I know of) has been removed from things because of their rude and inappropriate behaviour.

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    2. Sam Parsons‏ @Sam_D_Parsons 20 Oct 2018
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      I'd also add that many of the things being worked on by this community are implicitly or explicitly intended to promote equality and diversity, to protect vulnerable ECRs, and so on. This goes far beyond the institutionised norms that implicitly tolerates harassment

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    3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @Sam_D_Parsons @cruwelli and

      That's really nice to hear. I had huge push back when I tried to emphasise the importance of that a few months ago and before that for a couple years. Lovely to hear things have moved on.

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    4. Sam Parsons‏ @Sam_D_Parsons 20 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @cruwelli and

      @improvingpsych 2018 also began with specific mentions to the code of conduct explicitly discussing harassment. To me, this is unheard of at a meeting and something unobserved even across some institutions where harassment may be less public, but just as or possibly more harmful

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @Sam_D_Parsons @cruwelli and

      SIPS is not the same as #openscience. I now see where the confusion stems from...

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    6. Sophia Crüwell‏ @cruwelli 20 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @Sam_D_Parsons and

      So I think Sam is equating the two here as people keep doing that – see the outrage at that (bad) chronicle article, or one of the replies to the original tweet of this thread. If people don’t see them as the same(ish), they should just join SIPS as a movement and leave OS be

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @cruwelli @Sam_D_Parsons and

      I like openscience it's a beautiful movement. This is why I want it to be healthy.

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @cruwelli and

      BTW these things always happen. When I wrote this (a pro open science/open source) post, I got push back saying I'm against people coding... Even though I wrote it to help people learn how to code.http://neuroplausible.com/matlab 

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    9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @cruwelli and

      People will always find a way to twist stuff one way or another. But in my ten years of doing research (much less than many in this thread) open science has been great to see gain momentum, totally a great thing.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @cruwelli and

      But it naturally will attract bad actors. And we need to weed them out. That's all. I'm 100% for Open science. I didn't spend my phd (4+ years ago now time flies!) replicating computational models, begging for open source, and better research practises to give up now. 😉

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        2. Sophia Crüwell‏ @cruwelli 20 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @Sam_D_Parsons and

          Yes, but let’s weed them out individually and directly! That’s harder to do, but looks much more encouraging and welcoming than talking down the whole movement.

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @cruwelli @Sam_D_Parsons and

          Let's just disagree to disagree. 😂

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        4. Sophia Crüwell‏ @cruwelli 20 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @Sam_D_Parsons and

          But I think we agree! I just don’t think it’s helpful to say that there is a general problem, because then we keep bad actors - which is what we all want to avoid!

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @cruwelli @Sam_D_Parsons and

          I don't believe it's a few rogue bros. I think toxic masculinity and other toxic behaviours that we see like bullying stem from systemic social issues which intersect with science whether open or not and we need to be vigilant.

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        6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @cruwelli and

          And yes, like with open source and tech generally (if you saw that piece) it's possible for open science to end up less inclusive than the field(s) baseline(s).

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