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    1. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 28 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @chrisdc77 @hugospiers @drkjjeffery

      And you might say, well some results ARE more exciting than others. And of course that's true - that's a human reaction. But senior academics need to take responsibility for the polluting effects of results-based reward on science & scientists. So if you do it imo you shd own it.

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    2. Prof Hugo Spiers‏ @hugospiers 28 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @chrisdc77 @drkjjeffery

      Good point. It is tricky and I do appreciate the need for caution. Overall though it’s the discoveries and replications that make science wonderful. Glad you raised this issue for discussion.

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    3. Aidan Horner‏ @aidanhorner 28 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @hugospiers @chrisdc77 @drkjjeffery

      But exploratory science is often about the result. Yes, the methods and approach need to be sound, but if we are in exploration mode we need to be alert for "interesting" findings.

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    4. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 28 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @aidanhorner @hugospiers @drkjjeffery

      Of course we do, but my point is we shouldn't be rewarding people based on whether they find them or appear to find them. That's the problem here.

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    5. Aidan Horner‏ @aidanhorner 28 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @chrisdc77 @hugospiers @drkjjeffery

      That's fair. I guess the likelihood of finding something "interesting" in exploration mode is (or should be) linked to quality of methods, but then people should be judged on latter rather than former even if they are connected.

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    6. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 28 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @aidanhorner @hugospiers @drkjjeffery

      Yes that's exactly my point. The judgment of quality (and thus reward system) should always boil down to question and method and never whether the result is interesting, surprising etc.

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 28 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @chrisdc77 @aidanhorner and

      I guess you will need to demolish the Great Man Theory! Something I certainly agree needs to be done for many reasons — primarily because it doesn't accurately explain the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_man_theory …

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    8. Aidan Horner‏ @aidanhorner 28 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @chrisdc77 and

      This I can wholeheartedly get on board with

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    9. Aidan Horner‏ @aidanhorner 28 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @aidanhorner @o_guest and

      The irony being if RRs become the norm in science, Chris will be held up in years to come as a great visionary :)

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    10. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 28 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @aidanhorner @o_guest and

      lol that will never happen, I assure you, but in the bizzare event that it does, it's a prize that belongs to at least 100 people including more than a few dead ones.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 28 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @chrisdc77 @aidanhorner and

      Who, which community, invented RRs, aren't they from clinical research? I recall a bunch of 10-year-old posts from @Neuro_Skeptic (e.g., last para here: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2008/10/25/new-age-experiment-goes-wrong-hundreds-dead/#.W64v2HVKhhF …) — so I assume it's an even "older" idea?

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        2. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 28 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @aidanhorner and

          Oh yeah it goes right back. I've got an old thread on this somewhere hang on...

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        2. Neuroskeptic‏ @Neuro_Skeptic 28 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @chrisdc77 and

          Yes 10 years ago I was calling for prereg in basic science; but it was already in use for clinical trials. I'm not sure who invented it for trials!

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        3. Neuroskeptic‏ @Neuro_Skeptic 28 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @Neuro_Skeptic @o_guest and

          But as for Registered Reports as such, Chris invented them! afaik

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        4. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 28 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @Neuro_Skeptic @o_guest and

          I get asked this a lot by journalists and others. Here's a typical answer I give.pic.twitter.com/bjcFMGztfL

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        5. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 28 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @chrisdc77 @Neuro_Skeptic and

          And in talks you get a key mention as well, e.g. see slides 7-8 here https://osf.io/zgcv9/ 

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        6. Neuroskeptic‏ @Neuro_Skeptic 28 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @chrisdc77 @o_guest and

          Thanks!!

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