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    1. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Sep 2018
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      I believe you, but it worries me even more if that's a skill weighting being used.

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    2. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 20 Sep 2018
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      Also, I think many (perhaps most) PIs would prefer to train new ECRs to do better science rather than teach them to write, which the PI may have zero ability to do even they are a great writer themselves. Teaching folks to write better is fearsomely hard.

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    3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Sep 2018
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      I agree. I just, from many personal experiences, think retraining leaves pockets of old (wrong) knowledge (QRPs) intact. Its much more dangerous than bad wiring. Bad writing can be seen literally in black and white and addressed. A QPR for example can be hidden by good writing.

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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Sep 2018
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      To be clear, this is based on my experiences not derived from some mechanism or principle. It's likely I've met many PIs who don't know how to retrain and/or many students/trainees who know how to write very well to the point of hiding huge issues.

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Sep 2018
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      I believe my experiences generalise well, but I'm obviously biased. 😂

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    6. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 20 Sep 2018
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      Totally. I couldn't agree with you more. The obsession w good writing is part of the "flair" culture that emphasises bullshitting & story-telling over proper science. Personally I would prefer to employ a promising scientist over a promising bullshitter, but I fear that if >

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    7. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 20 Sep 2018
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      > you had asked my former self (say, 12 years ago as young PI who had not woken up to the problems in science) what I would prefer, I would have been swayed toward hiring someone who can produce, & arrogantly assumed that I could fill the science gap.

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Sep 2018
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      It makes sense but it's scary! Hopefully the tide is turning!

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    9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Sep 2018
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      We also as a community need to decide what to do and say to people trained badly. It's hard to convince somebody they are essentially totally wrong and in a way have been conned. 😢

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    10. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Sep 2018
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      It's an issue very close to my heart.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Sep 2018
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      One last thing. Good writing mustn't be confused with bullshitting. Good explanation and good theory are so important. But yes, certain people are only good writers and able to use their skills to hide the truth.

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