Separation of friends and colleagues is, at least in the UK, traditionally a middle class state of affairs as working clas folk traditionally all worked in the same industry and lived in the same town - twas traditional for them to go to a pub with colleagues / friends after work
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Replying to @BeesAndBaking @o_guest and
Working class work culture therefore embraces drinking with colleagues and counting them also as personal friends - which is one of the few things UK academia does well
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Replying to @BeesAndBaking @o_guest and
I just have to say that this is what kept me in academia. I was going to leave after my masters and go into gov or industry, but the treating colleagues as friends and welcoming of everyone to socialise on Fridays (or midweek) made me feel so welcome when no one else ever had
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Replying to @Tifftastic87 @BeesAndBaking and
I feel the same way but never tie(d) this in with drinking.
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Replying to @o_guest @BeesAndBaking and
For example, our institute goes to the pub together every Friday. One of the things I do is organise what pub we're going to. My way to make it as inclusive as I can is to choose a pub that has lots of space, offers food (if it doesn't then takeaways nearby), softdrinks and cheap
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Replying to @Tifftastic87 @BeesAndBaking and
My whole university moved seminars away from the ability to go to the pub afterwards as part of a drive towards being more family-friendly. Pub time overlaps, in their opinion, too much with picking-up kids time and thus they believe their move promotes inclusivity of mothers.
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Replying to @o_guest @Tifftastic87 and
Is this something considered here in your pro-pub opinions or do you two (Tiff and and Lewis) actually think my university is being classist? Again, genuine question, I want to know your thoughts.
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Replying to @o_guest @Tifftastic87 and
I think that's another example of a conflict between goals, with intersectional problems. My personal sympathy for the imbalance of parental responsibility for women in hetero relationships though isn't high - not my job as a gay man to fix how bad straight relationships are
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Replying to @BeesAndBaking @Tifftastic87 and
I think it's more they did stats and found that women drop out of STEM mostly because of family responsibilities.
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Replying to @o_guest @Tifftastic87 and
Yeah because they're in straighg families with a man who doesn't take equal share (just saw a great article one twitter today linked to that)
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They could be tending to parents too. Not just children.
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