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    1. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @BeesAndBaking @Jade_Pickering and

      I didn't mention any policy or to ban anything. I stated a preference for what I have experienced within my field on how academic culture manifests in the UK. Surely disliking academic culture [which is toxically anti-working-class] doesn't make me anti-working class, does it?

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    2. Lewis 'Horticultural Lad' Bartlett  🐝 🍰‏ @BeesAndBaking 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @Jade_Pickering and

      ... you literally said 'unlimited alcohol is unprofessional, unhealthy' [demonising] and then It's one of the things that's so much better in academia in the USA.' [better isn't a personal preference it's an assertion]. In context of someone saying there shouldn't be open bars

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    3. Lewis 'Horticultural Lad' Bartlett  🐝 🍰‏ @BeesAndBaking 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @BeesAndBaking @o_guest and

      You picked one of the few things which UK academia does which is inclusive of working class work culture. Said 'better to not have it's without any personal opinion qualification. And used health (a favourite classism beat stick) to police people's consumption

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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 13 Sep 2018
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      You don't have to explain this to me if you don't want to of course. But can you unpack what you mean by "inclusive of working class work culture"? I genuinely don't understand.

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    5. Lewis 'Horticultural Lad' Bartlett  🐝 🍰‏ @BeesAndBaking 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @Jade_Pickering and

      Separation of friends and colleagues is, at least in the UK, traditionally a middle class state of affairs as working clas folk traditionally all worked in the same industry and lived in the same town - twas traditional for them to go to a pub with colleagues / friends after work

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    6. Lewis 'Horticultural Lad' Bartlett  🐝 🍰‏ @BeesAndBaking 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @BeesAndBaking @o_guest and

      Working class work culture therefore embraces drinking with colleagues and counting them also as personal friends - which is one of the few things UK academia does well

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    7. Tiff: in thesis mode  🐟‏ @Tifftastic87 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @BeesAndBaking @o_guest and

      I just have to say that this is what kept me in academia. I was going to leave after my masters and go into gov or industry, but the treating colleagues as friends and welcoming of everyone to socialise on Fridays (or midweek) made me feel so welcome when no one else ever had

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @Tifftastic87 @BeesAndBaking and

      I feel the same way but never tie(d) this in with drinking.

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    9. Tiff: in thesis mode  🐟‏ @Tifftastic87 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @BeesAndBaking and

      For example, our institute goes to the pub together every Friday. One of the things I do is organise what pub we're going to. My way to make it as inclusive as I can is to choose a pub that has lots of space, offers food (if it doesn't then takeaways nearby), softdrinks and cheap

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    10. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @Tifftastic87 @BeesAndBaking and

      My whole university moved seminars away from the ability to go to the pub afterwards as part of a drive towards being more family-friendly. Pub time overlaps, in their opinion, too much with picking-up kids time and thus they believe their move promotes inclusivity of mothers.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @Tifftastic87 and

      Is this something considered here in your pro-pub opinions or do you two (Tiff and and Lewis) actually think my university is being classist? Again, genuine question, I want to know your thoughts.

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        2. Julie Blommaert  👩🏼‍🔬‏ @Julie_B92 13 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @Tifftastic87 and

          Socialising doesn’t have to be tied to seminars?

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 13 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @Julie_B92 @Tifftastic87 and

          In my field, it really is. You have a talk/seminar then you have the drinks. But that is being phased out at my institution and where they can. I have a feeling some seminars are outside their control.

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        2. Lewis 'Horticultural Lad' Bartlett  🐝 🍰‏ @BeesAndBaking 13 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @Tifftastic87 and

          I think that's another example of a conflict between goals, with intersectional problems. My personal sympathy for the imbalance of parental responsibility for women in hetero relationships though isn't high - not my job as a gay man to fix how bad straight relationships are

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 13 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @BeesAndBaking @Tifftastic87 and

          I think it's more they did stats and found that women drop out of STEM mostly because of family responsibilities.

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        4. Lewis 'Horticultural Lad' Bartlett  🐝 🍰‏ @BeesAndBaking 13 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @Tifftastic87 and

          Yeah because they're in straighg families with a man who doesn't take equal share (just saw a great article one twitter today linked to that)

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        5. Julie Blommaert  👩🏼‍🔬‏ @Julie_B92 13 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @BeesAndBaking @o_guest and

          And maybe also the man earns more money (cause pay gap) so it makes more sense for the woman to stay home. Like it’s not just working hours that drive women/caretakers out of STEM

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        6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 13 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @Julie_B92 @BeesAndBaking and

          Isn't this erasing single mums, bi women? I'm really confused.

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        7. Julie Blommaert  👩🏼‍🔬‏ @Julie_B92 13 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @BeesAndBaking and

          My original point was that harassers are responsible for driving more women out of academia than the mere presence of alcohol, so I’m just gonna reiterate that that’s the point of this discussion for me

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        8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 13 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @Julie_B92 @BeesAndBaking and

          It's certainly derailed.

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        2. Tiff: in thesis mode  🐟‏ @Tifftastic87 13 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @BeesAndBaking and

          For inclusiveness we have both pub after and the ability to schedule a chat during the day with an invited speaker. The dinner/drinks after are done as a thank you to the speaker and allows people busy during the day (i.e. PhD students) a chance to chat with speaker

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