... you literally said 'unlimited alcohol is unprofessional, unhealthy' [demonising] and then It's one of the things that's so much better in academia in the USA.' [better isn't a personal preference it's an assertion]. In context of someone saying there shouldn't be open bars
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Replying to @BeesAndBaking @o_guest and
You picked one of the few things which UK academia does which is inclusive of working class work culture. Said 'better to not have it's without any personal opinion qualification. And used health (a favourite classism beat stick) to police people's consumption
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Replying to @BeesAndBaking @Jade_Pickering and
You don't have to explain this to me if you don't want to of course. But can you unpack what you mean by "inclusive of working class work culture"? I genuinely don't understand.
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Replying to @o_guest @Jade_Pickering and
Separation of friends and colleagues is, at least in the UK, traditionally a middle class state of affairs as working clas folk traditionally all worked in the same industry and lived in the same town - twas traditional for them to go to a pub with colleagues / friends after work
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Replying to @BeesAndBaking @o_guest and
Working class work culture therefore embraces drinking with colleagues and counting them also as personal friends - which is one of the few things UK academia does well
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Replying to @BeesAndBaking @o_guest and
'professionalism' in other industries and academia in the US enforces a 'colleagues not pals' paradigm as 'appropriate' and typically looks down on colleagues drinking together socially
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Replying to @BeesAndBaking @o_guest and
When that happens, the way the working classes go about handling their professional relationships is branded unprofessional and inappropriate, therefore exclusionary. UK academia tends to be very good at now doing this, and as a consequence maintains 'horizontal' hierarchy too
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Replying to @BeesAndBaking @Jade_Pickering and
What's horizontal hierarchy?
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Replying to @o_guest @Jade_Pickering and
Equality of treatment amongst / between people regardless of perceived 'rank'. PhD students will talk to professors very informally, relaxed, without titles etc. much as they would to another PhD student
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Replying to @BeesAndBaking @o_guest and
Professors not expecting to be spoken to differently to if speaking to a technician, for example
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Ecology, if I understand where you work correctly from your bio, sounds like a much more relaxed and cool field.
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