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    1. Tiff: in thesis mode  🐟‏ @Tifftastic87 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @Julie_B92 @Jade_Pickering

      I don't see it as exclusionary, because every conference I have been to has offered unlimited softdrinks along with alcohol (which is usually limited to one or two free drinks)

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    2. Jade Pickering‏ @Jade_Pickering 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @Tifftastic87 @o_guest @Julie_B92

      I've been to one where there were no free soft drinks but the alcohol was free...it was infuriating. I left early.

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    3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @Jade_Pickering @Tifftastic87 @Julie_B92

      I'm really sorry for that. This has been my experience too. It's exclusionary for all types of non-drinkers, Muslims, recovering alcoholics, people like me who can't drink for medical reasons, etc.

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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 13 Sep 2018
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      I also really hate UK academic drinks culture. It's one of the things that's so much better in academia in the USA.

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    5. Lewis 'Horticultural Lad' Bartlett  🐝 🍰‏ @BeesAndBaking 13 Sep 2018
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      To you maybe, but to others of us with experience in both US and UK academia the difference goes the other way. Drinking with colleagues is an inherent part of UK working class culture. Enforced 'professionalism' and demonisation of drinking to me always feels classist.

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @BeesAndBaking @Jade_Pickering and

      I'm not from the UK though. I'm a Cypriot immigrant to the UK. I moved here in 2006 and still don't understand your class system. So I'm not sure my concerns stem from my being a toff or my attempt at utilisation of a class system to further my ideological aims, etc.

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @BeesAndBaking and

      I have no issues with working class English academics and sadly the bias against them is very powerful. I am not convinced what is keeping them out is my aversion to an environment with unlimited alcoholic beverages though.

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    8. Lewis 'Horticultural Lad' Bartlett  🐝 🍰‏ @BeesAndBaking 13 Sep 2018
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      No but introducing a 'no open bars' policy would contribute further to exclusion. We can have open bars with non-alcoholic drinks and not go about saying one academic culture is 'better' than another for demonising drinking. One can find it preferable but 'better' I object to

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    9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @BeesAndBaking @Jade_Pickering and

      I didn't mention any policy or to ban anything. I stated a preference for what I have experienced within my field on how academic culture manifests in the UK. Surely disliking academic culture [which is toxically anti-working-class] doesn't make me anti-working class, does it?

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    10. Lewis 'Horticultural Lad' Bartlett  🐝 🍰‏ @BeesAndBaking 13 Sep 2018
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      ... you literally said 'unlimited alcohol is unprofessional, unhealthy' [demonising] and then It's one of the things that's so much better in academia in the USA.' [better isn't a personal preference it's an assertion]. In context of someone saying there shouldn't be open bars

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 13 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @BeesAndBaking @Jade_Pickering and

      Unlimited alcohol is unhealthy. And yes, better for me. Was within a context of my preference.

      9:45 AM - 13 Sep 2018
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