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    1. Jan Wessel‏ @Wessel_Lab 19 Aug 2018
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      Plus, when do I tell my trainees to switch? They have to start on MATLAB while I am still learning the new language to learn the principles of data analysis under my guidance. Should they then spend more time on learning how to code another language after I finally learn it? 6/10

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    2. Jan Wessel‏ @Wessel_Lab 19 Aug 2018
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      Lastly, much of our research depends on techniques that are highly specific, but have established MATLAB code (e.g., temporal ICA in EEGLAB). I know how the math & logic behind these techniques, but I couldn’t implement them from scratch (& fool-proof) in my own code. 7/10

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    3. Jan Wessel‏ @Wessel_Lab 19 Aug 2018
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      Additionally, I’ve never reviewed a single EEG paper (out of >100) that used an open source language. I’m sure packages exist, but they’re not widespread. I don’t know anyone who uses an open-source language for EEG analysis. Who will scrutinize my new code? 8/10

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    4. Jan Wessel‏ @Wessel_Lab 19 Aug 2018
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      We’re trying to be as “open science” as possible in my lab; we share all of our data, stimuli, and (MATLAB) code (see our website). But unless I’m missing something, switching to a new, open-source programming language does not seem practical for us. 9/10

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    5. Jan Wessel‏ @Wessel_Lab 19 Aug 2018
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      But maybe I am in fact missing the forest for the trees. I’m open to any advice on this. 10/10

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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      I have no silver bullets and I'm sorry your training and others' didn't include learning deeper principles so you can switch to another language easily. I put some links at the bottom of http://neuroplausible.com/matlab  that might help, like: https://www.enthought.com/white-paper-matlab-to-python …

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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      But there's no simple solutions and it's tough. I really agree with most of the advice here. Good luck!

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    8. Kevin Cantú  🏳️‍🌈‏ @killerswan 20 Aug 2018
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      I’ve spent the last few years of software engineering working at boundaries of systems written in different languages, so I have opinions! 😅

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    9. Kevin Cantú  🏳️‍🌈‏ @killerswan 20 Aug 2018
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      but one of the key suggestions I have is to look for boundaries that already exist (embracing Conway’s law) and tools that would let you separate and bridge them

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    10. Kevin Cantú  🏳️‍🌈‏ @killerswan 20 Aug 2018
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      for example, if you have a way to call Julia from Matlab, or vice versus, you might be free to send one team off into the other language, but keep the part that must remain in Matlab so

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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      Just to be clear, I don't think they are deving in Matlab. Just writing short analysis scripts if I understand correctly.

      2:02 PM - 20 Aug 2018
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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          Just mentioning in case it helps hone your feedback and ideas. 😅

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        3. Kevin Cantú  🏳️‍🌈‏ @killerswan 20 Aug 2018
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          most code ever written has been “short analysis scripts” (Excel counts, IMHO) and the tooling for doing these right is even more important than for the high end skyscrapers of “software industry” 😸

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        4. Kevin Cantú  🏳️‍🌈‏ @killerswan 20 Aug 2018
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          finding new ways to live doesn’t mean you have to abandon all the old things which still workpic.twitter.com/eSIqlrD60V

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Aug 2018
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          Amusing — that's not too far off my Victorian house. 😅

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